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Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

criddell wrote: post #155
vehemenz wrote: post #2

I've given Firefox multiple chances, but we've had no progress with the MacOS performance issues for years. Also, no pinch-to-zoom? 2007 called, and it wants its browser back.

My big Firefox problem is the lack of media key support. I like to hit play or pause on my keyboard and have my streaming music start or top. It's probably the one big thing that makes me run Chrome all the time.

This sounds like a pretty easy feature to implement and send upstream, you should give it a shot. In my everyone has their niche "one big thing", and it's different for every user and impossible for upstream to accommodate for. But scratching your own itches always works!

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by Anecdotal »

I will switch to Firefox as soon as Workona creates an addon for it, similar to the one that they have for Chrome.For whoever doesn’t know it yet, this is an awesome productivity tool, which changes the way you use the browser.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by vinay_ys »

juststeve wrote: post #32
idoubtit wrote: post #29

Not much content in this article. A single benchmark which shows nothing of real-life cases. Two minor technical features, one of them already in Chrome beta. Lastly, an appeal to fight Chrome's monopole. Surprisingly, not a word about privacy. I do give Firefox a chance, but it gets tiring. Many years ago, I dropped Firefox's ancestor for Opera 6. The UI and the features were miles ahead (e.g. Mozilla had no tabs).…

try FF nightly. I'm on debian as my daily driver, but nightly works well for me.

I've been trying nightly as well. But it seems to sporadically reset all my settings whenever it upgrades. For example the DoH was turned off again. And there are some weird settings like this: $$$apz.fling_curve_function_x1$$$ and it isn't editable nor deletable.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by cityzen »

Pro Tip: You can use most chrome extensions in Firefox. This is what got me to switch.

I don't recall if I used this but I am running all of the chrome extensions I had in firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chrome-store-...

Not to mention, their new side view feature is great to have reference and code on a single window.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by chmln »

RandomGuyDTB wrote: post #123
gavinpc wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> make it good Are you arguing that Firefox is not even "good," or just not perfect? (I use Firefox on a Mac all day and the only kind of "resource hunger" I've observed can be pinned to the web pages that it's running.)

In every test I've seen Firefox has beaten Chrome in terms of speed.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=chrome-7...

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by spappal »

illumin8 wrote: post #158

Firefox has way better privacy controls than Chrome, however, their track record on security is abysmal. In fact, a 0-day was just found last week targeting Coinbase employees. I wish I could switch to Firefox for privacy reasons, but good security is table stakes and Firefox just doesn't have nearly the security credentials that Chrome does at the moment. This definitely could change in the future, and I hope it doe…

> Firefox just doesn't have nearly the security credentials that Chrome does at the moment

I think this claim deserves a justification. Not saying you're wrong but I'm interested in how to compare browser security.

(Counteranecdote: the HN-popular article [0] which explained the Firefox zero-day, mentioned in it's last paragraph a Chrome zero-day from March 2019.)

[0] https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-patches-firefox-zero-d...

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by seba_dos1 »

igetspam wrote: post #36
syockit wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the OOM problem still there even after Quantum release? This was the main turn off factor for me with FF long ago, and when the OOM fails to even trigger, the famous swap thrashing occurs. I tried again with Quantum, but then there were still stability problems causing the whole browser to lock up (just like Edge. But same problem existed in FF since long ago too), so I've never tried it anymore since then. Twice…

Yes. My laptop is a Xeon with 32GB RAM and I can't keep FF alive for more than 4-6 hours. I let upstream (ubuntu) keep packages updated so I'm current.

Something's terribly wrong there. I'm using Firefox on a laptop with 8GB RAM and hundreds of open tabs. Chromium is unusable with just dozens of tabs due to maxing the available RAM; Firefox just slows down a lot after reaching something around a thousand (and it depends on the version - it's periodically getting better or worse at handling such amount of tabs), but no RAM issues whatsoever.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by hailhash »

I am one of those developers who never switched from Firefox. Early days IE was the market leader and now it’s Chrome. Firefox seems to always the underdog. If you haven’t tried Firefox in the last year, give it a try and see for yourself.

To me Chrome is IE+Flash+PC Bloatware+Spyware.

Just check your Task Scheduler on windows and see for yourself.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by n1000 »

BozeWolf wrote: post #3
vehemenz wrote: post #2

I've given Firefox multiple chances, but we've had no progress with the MacOS performance issues for years. Also, no pinch-to-zoom? 2007 called, and it wants its browser back.

Energy usage on MacOS is another problem, especially compared to safari. I am using safari for a while now, but every now and then you just have to admit chrome does some things much better, like tab management and the dev tools are more user friendly. Which, i realize, is the case for firefox btw. Ff tab management and dev tools are quite nice.

Yes, all those Macbook Pros that operate at the limits of their thermal system start venting like crazy when using Firefox. I prefer it so much more over all other browsers, but this drove me to using Safari almost all the time.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by mruts »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #16
ramraj07 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What plugin allows this feature in Firefox now?

Tree Style Tabs is a popular one. Though none can take away the Tabs in title bar without manually installed CSS hacks.

It’s only a few lines of code, though.
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