Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us • Hacker News Board

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by adambyrtek » Thu, Dec 16, 2010, 10:45 PM UTC

iamwil wrote: post #29

I wonder if it'd even be possible to donate it to some foundation that preserves influential websites. It'd be a pity to leave delicious and just trash it, instead of archiving it somewhere.

Internet Archive[1] is such a foundation. Most people know about the Wayback Machine, but they also preserve structured content like databases of URL shorteners[2]. This makes sense because the world doesn't need hundreds of shorteners, and I expect that most of them to disappear shortly (leaving dangling link behind).

[1] http://www.archive.org/

[2] http://www.archive.org/details/301works

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by jamesbritt » Thu, Dec 16, 2010, 10:48 PM UTC

What's funny is that Delicious had changed their UI (again) recently, making it harder to save bookmarks with appropriate tags. It's as if the developers or managers don't actually use it themselves, or have no idea how large numbers of people are using it.

So I've been looking around for an alternative. I've been using Diigo, though the UI (at least for the bookmarklet) is not all that much better.

The comments here about Pinboard, though, motivated me to go sign up. I figure, better now than later after the exodus drives the cost up. :)

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by Tichy » Thu, Dec 16, 2010, 10:50 PM UTC

sabat wrote: post #164

petercooper wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Delicious's database is already public (if you take out private fields on the user table and the private links). Even just the links + tags without any user info would rock for semantic Web usage.

It's public right now . It won't be once Yahoo pulls the plug on Delicious.

User-agent: * Disallow: /

I don't remember the robots.txt rules for sure, but doesn't that mean they don't allow crawlers at all?

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by Tichy » Thu, Dec 16, 2010, 10:52 PM UTC

Dumb question, but couldn't they try to sell it again? Is that never an option, once a startup has been bought?

I realize they probably have added some Yahoo specific stuff, like single sign on, so disentangling it might be too costly?

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by Tichy » Thu, Dec 16, 2010, 10:52 PM UTC

What bookmarking service, if any, is everybody using these days?

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by jemfinch » Thu, Dec 16, 2010, 10:52 PM UTC

jules wrote: post #135

petercooper wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

never made use of the enormous flow of user sharing data they were getting to do anything interesting. It's a shame they didn't, because many of us users sure did/do. By virtue of its popularity and simplicity, you could know almost every page with any merit was in its system and tagged, making it easy to discover stuff you hadn't even bookmarked yet. Example: Want a good Python tutorial about threads? http://www.del…

Surely Yahoo can tap this value in their search?

Yahoo doesn't have search anymore. They subcontract to Bing.

Besides, using delicious data would be far too open to SEO abuse.

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by borism » Thu, Dec 16, 2010, 10:54 PM UTC

chunkbot wrote: post #71

seldo wrote: post #60

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Now that they're shutting it down, I would love to hear your thoughts as founder on why delicious didn't live up to its potential.

Delicious lived up to its founders' potential when it was acquired for millions.

that's ridiculous. potential of the company is not about who owns the stock or how much cash changed hands in the process.

having been part of one particular exit I know all too well that startup founders and ex-employees have deep emotional connection to their former company, no matter how much they got for it.

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by jgilliam » Thu, Dec 16, 2010, 10:56 PM UTC

There is a Twitter petition to Yahoo getting a lot of action: http://act.ly/2ul

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by davi » Thu, Dec 16, 2010, 10:58 PM UTC

idlewords wrote: post #106

St-Clock wrote: post #58

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Yup, "The service is not available. Please try again later."

We've been trying to figure that one out. No connection problems for the vast majority of people, but there are a couple who report this

It happened to me the first time I tried to look at pinboard today. I'm on a satellite modem out in the middle of nowhere -- maybe a latency bug? Problem was gone when I tried a little later.

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by jules » Thu, Dec 16, 2010, 10:59 PM UTC

jemfinch wrote: post #176

jules wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely Yahoo can tap this value in their search?

Yahoo doesn't have search anymore. They subcontract to Bing. Besides, using delicious data would be far too open to SEO abuse.

They can do what duck duck go does and alter the search results or provide extra info. I agree about the abuse, but linking it to your own delicious account or some algorithm for weighing things that is already used for webpages can surely solve that.