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On one hand, I do see that HN (and probably Reddit) live in a bubble. Where most of the darling languages and tools have very low use in the real-world. And where most of the languages and tooling that actually run the real-world go un-discussed, or simply dismissed, because they're boring and don't appeal to students and entry-level devs working on side projects. I realize that the perspective most rookies get from…
For my day job, I do Python and Java... For side projects that are database-driven web apps, PHP is perfect.
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despite it's pre 1.0 status it's arguably more production ready than php ever was/will-be etc.
I bet you rely on things written in PHP way more than you realize.
> Node.js is faster than PHP only in adding numbers.
On one hand, I do see that HN (and probably Reddit) live in a bubble. Where most of the darling languages and tools have very low use in the real-world. And where most of the languages and tooling that actually run the real-world go un-discussed, or simply dismissed, because they're boring and don't appeal to students and entry-level devs working on side projects. I realize that the perspective most rookies get from…
What's wrong with Laravel or Symfony?
I'm just saying that I don't see any job listings for them as an interviewee, or see any resumes with them as an interviewer. In contrast to other technologies that HN or Reddit declare to be "dead" or "dying", yet actually seem to run the world with no serious disruption on the horizon yet.
I've actually been really impressed with Laravel after switching back to PHP for a few projects. Not only is the developer tooling experience some of the best I've experienced, it's just really the only framework I've ever experienced with a high quality ecosystem of tools—from Forge[1], which makes it dead-simple to deploy a Laravel app into production to things like Horizon, for managing Redis queues. A great examp…
I would recommend.
As far as I'm concerned the bridges have burned a long time ago and I definitely can't see myself giving PHP a second chance. That being said, if I'm wrong and PHP has really managed to become a decent language (or at least something that's not completely insane) its defenders should focus on actually showing what modern PHP code looks like. Is performance that much of a big deal for most people? In a world where Rub…
I was pretty anti-PHP before I worked for a multi-billion dollar company that was built on top of it. It's not a beautiful language, but it offers a lot of side benefits in terms of dev-ops, and tooling, and frameworks. As a company, the language was not something that held us back. The company moved really fast, and PHP was a large part a big part of why. In my career over the past 14 years I've done web work using…
I worked on a data pipeline that was a mountain of PHP scripts bolted together with Bash and it was such a breeze to maintain. Using Symfony ensures that every command is well documented and consistent in design and use.
Something I never appreciated about PHP until recently is that character encoding is so much more robust in PHP than other languages. We were forced to replace our pipeline with Python because of a combination of "Eww, PHP" from new management and "data scientists use Python." Character encoding was a huge, unexpected annoyance.
I've actually been really impressed with Laravel after switching back to PHP for a few projects. Not only is the developer tooling experience some of the best I've experienced, it's just really the only framework I've ever experienced with a high quality ecosystem of tools—from Forge[1], which makes it dead-simple to deploy a Laravel app into production to things like Horizon, for managing Redis queues. A great examp…
There are comparable things with other frameworks too. For example I wrote a course on building a SAAS app with Flask. It's available at: https://buildasaasappwithflask.com/ It covers everything about user registration, profiles, subscription billing, 1 time billing, invoicing, and about 50 other things you would likely want to do in a SAAS app or any application really. The course comes with the source code along wi…
Anyhow, I've generally avoided a lot of languages. For now my choices have boiled down to C++ and python, and I've even used brython instead of client side JS. I either don't touch other languages, or just thread very carefully.
My cynicism is usually yelling out to nuke all existing things, including HTML and JS, to favor something new, clean, less bloated, so that it can possibly run well on smartphones. I just wish public research and engineering entities like DARPA could come up with something better. I think C and by extent C++ are already that, but crowds of nerds will keep moaning about out of bound arrays.
HTML freed the web from the grasp of greedy capitalists, but now it has done its job and a lot of things should be put away. Aren't there tools to optimize HTML rendering for speed?