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Nice curiosity gap there. Where did the mercury come from?
IMO he is clearly implying it came from a vaccine(s) but he is trying to do it without being seen as an anti-vaxxer.
Biomarker for chronic fatigue syndrome identified
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#173Paper at https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2019/04/24/190127411... Pleasantly surprised to discover that it was legally available! The test appears to be ridiculously good. Perfect separation of 40 subjects into those who have been diagnosed with CFS and those who are known to be healthy, from blood samples. I want to see this replicated, by people who are not the original authors; but if this test is anything…
Thanks for the paper link. I read the paper and it's really a semiconductor sensor engineering paper, not a biology paper. The paper seems very preliminary; it shows that CFS and non-CFS sample have widely different impedances under osmotic stress, but the mechanism behind this is entirely hand-waving. If I'm reading the paper correctly, the samples were peripheral blood mononuclear cells (i.e. lots of different cell…
> but the mechanism behind this is entirely hand-waving.
The objective of this paper was not to specify, or even attempt to specify, the mechanism.
> The paper's use of machine learning seems entirely pointless, basically drawing the obvious line between the two sets of points.
Yeah, that is pretty much the entire objective of SVMs.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for the paper link. I read the paper and it's really a semiconductor sensor engineering paper, not a biology paper. The paper seems very preliminary; it shows that CFS and non-CFS sample have widely different impedances under osmotic stress, but the mechanism behind this is entirely hand-waving. If I'm reading the paper correctly, the samples were peripheral blood mononuclear cells (i.e. lots of different cell…
The use of machine learning needs to be explained. I’m half expecting it to boil down to “we evolved the neural nets until it perfectly separated the two groups” — overfitting “learning”.
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It isn't just that the suffering from mental illness is real, it causes very real physical health issues and deeply disrupts your body's hormonal makeup via the HPA axis. The strict delineation between physiological and psychological illnesses is mostly a Western construct and the unfortunate effect is that the CFS community has an obsession with proving that it is a 100% physical illness without any mental component…
Careful not to swing too far the other way. In situations where physical treatments are an option (even if they would only help, not cure), it is important not to give such treatments if it is a mental illness as treatments have risks. If it is mental, mental illness treatment might actually help.
Another interesting correlary is the pelvic floor dysfunction world. It is mostly a stress based illness which is best addressed by mental health treatment and relaxation but some people have gotten tons of invasive surgeries with reason to think they would even be helpful
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I found out last year the root cause of my CFS is life-long mercury toxicity (a well understood neurotoxin). I am responding very positively to treatment. I rarely talk about it because people get very upset when I tell them about the evidence of where the mercury came from.
Do you eat 20 cans of tuna a day? When I was much younger I ate 1-2 cans of tuna pretty much every day for few years and I didn’t have any ill effect at all.
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#177Paper at https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2019/04/24/190127411... Pleasantly surprised to discover that it was legally available! The test appears to be ridiculously good. Perfect separation of 40 subjects into those who have been diagnosed with CFS and those who are known to be healthy, from blood samples. I want to see this replicated, by people who are not the original authors; but if this test is anything…
I have to agree with you here - the separation is too good. You just never get anything in the real world that works this well with complex diseases.
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I don't get angry like some people about "anti-vaxxers", but the reason I am not one, is because I think that if low levels of mercury were a major health issue, then it would be apparent in large populations that consume a relatively large amount of mercury-containing seafood. e.g. Japan. And in Japan, there have also, as it happens, been incidents of acute mercury poisoning with significant numbers of people, so th…
Yes, data on mercury toxicity is quite clear that vaccines as safe. However it's unfortunately easy to find sham "doctors" that will diagnose whatever the patient requests - mercury poisoning, EBV, chronic lyme disease, just pay in full and all your beliefs will be confirmed! Just don't look too closely at the placebo, er, cure...
The distinction I'm making is that I am pretty sure low level mercury is not an issue like lead from gasoline, although I can imagine evidence that would change my mind. If it was, we should be able to see blatant differences in large populations, just like we see with lead and violent crime.
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#179So what they measure and where is the paper? I read the linked pr but find nothing about them
I don't understand the details but here is the link to the paper https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/04/24/1901274116
This might be an intersting finding, but I can't figure out why the impdecance of membrane need to be measured with increased NaCl in the plama. And whether it is only related with Na+ or Cl- change.
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, data on mercury toxicity is quite clear that vaccines as safe. However it's unfortunately easy to find sham "doctors" that will diagnose whatever the patient requests - mercury poisoning, EBV, chronic lyme disease, just pay in full and all your beliefs will be confirmed! Just don't look too closely at the placebo, er, cure...
Well, there are lots of rare diseases, and mercury could be a factor in some of them. That doesn't mean they are imaginary. It's more of a definitional/philosophical issue, that some other factor is essential as well, so it's not right to attribute the problem only to mercury. The distinction I'm making is that I am pretty sure low level mercury is not an issue like lead from gasoline, although I can imagine evidence…