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Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer without larger batteries

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Re: Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer without larger batteries

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I can't wait to sit in my car one morning in Los Angeles, punch in Seattle, then wake up the next morning arrived.

If self driving trucks are on the horizon, why not self driving efficiency apartments? :)

Oddly enough, there is a train on that route.

Re: Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer without larger batteries

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The dealerships use VIN numbers, which end up getting you the exact part you want, even if the same car model of the same year has different parts. I suppose some of the retailers don't have this privilege.

"Vehicle Identification Number numbers"?

Just like PIN number, ATM machine, CAC card, and "is that a work PC or personal?"

It's a very typical construction, for whatever reason.

Re: Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer without larger batteries

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Interestingly, the charge rate across the entire curve sounds like an important metric but in practice it is nearly irrelevant. If you drive an ICE car, you are used to filling your tank. Because once you've gone through the trouble of driving to a gas station and pulling out your credit card and unscrewing the cap, well you might as well top it off, right? Life is different with electric. You might know, for example…

None of these justifications answer the question I've asked. Read the link I've provided. The Tesla Model 3 can get to 90% state of charge in 40 minutes in ideal conditions. How many minutes will it now take the Model S and Model X to do the same? The amount of time spent at a charger to get decent range matters. Read this article for an example of someone who likes his Tesla Model 3 but is getting frustrated with th…

I generally don’t charge to 90% when I supercharge, are you saying I’m doing it wrong? Seriously, the point of supercharging is to do the minimum, not 90%.

Re: Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer without larger batteries

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This is good. It's Tesla focusing on making better cars. More range is good. Faster charging is good. Those are real things. Yesterday's claims about Tesla operating a million self-driving taxis by 2020 were, well, not taken too seriously. The new stuff is all at the high end, though. The $35,000 Model 3 is still absent from the product line.

It’s not absent, it’s just hidden. You can order one if you call.

For now.

Re: Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer without larger batteries

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You go on the website, click a couple boxes, and it tells you a price. You pay what you see on the website. How is that more confusing than a regular dealership?

First of all, I doubt that the average Tesla customer is wealthy enough that they're in a position to shrug and ambivalently pay whatever the website tells them on that particular day, like they're in the checkout aisle of a grocery store or the pump at a gas station. When it comes to $50,000 purchases, people generally like to plan ahead. Second, the comparison isn't against dealers (which are awful), the comparison…

Bringing up prices and ideal scenarios is whatboutism. These updates are about real features, not prices or fake ideal scenarios.

Re: Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer without larger batteries

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None of these justifications answer the question I've asked. Read the link I've provided. The Tesla Model 3 can get to 90% state of charge in 40 minutes in ideal conditions. How many minutes will it now take the Model S and Model X to do the same? The amount of time spent at a charger to get decent range matters. Read this article for an example of someone who likes his Tesla Model 3 but is getting frustrated with th…

I generally don’t charge to 90% when I supercharge, are you saying I’m doing it wrong? Seriously, the point of supercharging is to do the minimum, not 90%.

Do you have any information on the new charge curves of the Model S and Model X? That's the information I'm after.

Re: Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer without larger batteries

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Is it any worse than what other manufacturers deal with? The 2019 Honda Accord shares some parts with the 2018 Honda Accord which shares some parts with the 2017 model... when something breaks in my Honda the first question is "do they still make/use this part or did they change it in newer models?"

Gee, I hope they have some kind of system to track that. Maybe software even?

Whenever I go to the dealership to get an original part (typically if there's several slightly different variants available and I don't know which I need), they just input my license plate number into their system, then click through a menu to find the part (like chassis->steering->link arm->left side). Takes about 30 seconds, they show me a picture to confirm it's right, then they go grab my part from the warehouse. (This is a European manufacturer.)

Re: Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer without larger batteries

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I generally don’t charge to 90% when I supercharge, are you saying I’m doing it wrong? Seriously, the point of supercharging is to do the minimum, not 90%.

Do you have any information on the new charge curves of the Model S and Model X? That's the information I'm after.

You are saying a lot more than just that, so it’s no surprise that the answers you’re getting are not what you expect.

Re: Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer without larger batteries

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Do you have any information on the new charge curves of the Model S and Model X? That's the information I'm after.

You are saying a lot more than just that, so it’s no surprise that the answers you’re getting are not what you expect.

Good grief.

Re: Changes to Models S and X allow them to travel longer without larger batteries

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> Model S and Model X are now capable of achieving 200 kW on V3 Superchargers and 145 kW on V2 Superchargers. Together, these improvements enable our customers to recharge their miles 50% faster. What does that mean exactly? I'm sure there are sections of the charge curve where it is 50% faster, but you need to consider the entire charge curve to get a better sense of the improvement. The Tesla Model 3's charge times…

It is the combination of charging faster (more energy per time unit) and using less energy for a giving distance, this means the charging speed as in adding distance charged per time unit gets improved by the combination of these two changes together.
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