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Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Who is "we"?

Me and the other guy. I am Victor Grishchenko, PhD. At the time, we had a CRDT based sync engine which we white-labelled to Yandex. We had been eager to work with Evernote cause all their sync issues have been very clear to us. These days, even Apple Notes syncs with CRDTs... at the time, it was cutting-edge. P.S. Please never let me feel that my response is more polite than necessary.

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The web clipper is still the best I’ve seen (though also buggy, sigh). Do any of the EN alternatives have something like it? I’d be happy with Apple notes if I could restrict a search to a folder.

The Web Clipper mangles most web sites for me. These days, I try the "simplified HTML" mode, or just do a screenshot, because the default mode just ends up a jumbled mess like this: https://i.imgur.com/RsadnVx.jpg.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is "we"?

Me and the other guy. I am Victor Grishchenko, PhD. At the time, we had a CRDT based sync engine which we white-labelled to Yandex. We had been eager to work with Evernote cause all their sync issues have been very clear to us. These days, even Apple Notes syncs with CRDTs... at the time, it was cutting-edge. P.S. Please never let me feel that my response is more polite than necessary.

Why is your response so polite?

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Are there any good, preferably open source, alternatives to Evernote/OneNote? I like Markdown but plaintext is not enough as I need support for pictures, tables, ...

I use GoodNotes. It’s a notebook/paper paradigm which relies heavily on pen input - but it works fantastic for what it does.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Evernote isn't perfect. That said I've used it forever since the days when it was just a desktop application and have thousands of notes. I've never lost one. While it shocks me, after many years there is still no real alternative to seamlessly synch all the documents I am reading and filing across all my computers and my iPad. The product is feeling a little stale as if active development has stopped but it does work fine as it is.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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I find it weird that no one is mentioning that this article is written by an EN competitor. I've been an EN user since 2010. Yes they have had some problems and I have even tried to jump ship (as recently as last fall when I gave DEVONThink a go). I keep coming back though. I've yet to find anything that touches it in terms of features and functionality. Only ones that come close are OneNote and Notion. OneNote is fi…

I use EN every day also. The search is not good, but I haven't found anything better, I have a lot of notes in different notebooks and it works ok for me in terms of speed and usability across mobile and desktop. I'm glad they didn't become some bloated app that tries to upsell you with useless new features all the time but worry they might not survive. I had a major problem with sync 3 years ago where I lost an important document, ever since then I write important things outside EN and store a copy in it

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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I find it weird that no one is mentioning that this article is written by an EN competitor. I've been an EN user since 2010. Yes they have had some problems and I have even tried to jump ship (as recently as last fall when I gave DEVONThink a go). I keep coming back though. I've yet to find anything that touches it in terms of features and functionality. Only ones that come close are OneNote and Notion. OneNote is fi…

Hi! I am the co-founder of FYI and author of the blog post. We are not an Evernote competitor. In fact we integrate with it and many other document apps.

Oh I see. You’re self-identifying “problems” that your product can solve.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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I have over a thousand notes in Evernote. One day I noticed that one was missing shortly after I created it. Eventually I discovered that the convenient new-note shortcut was failing every time with a database corruption error - but the error only appeared in a system log I was unaware of. There was no indication to the user that the notes were failing. To this day I have no idea how many notes I lost due to this bug…

I use zotero for papers and plain text files in folders for everything else. Dropbox keeps everything synced and I'll definitely be able to open a text or pdf file in 40 years, not too sure about evernote.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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We contacted Evernote in 2012, 13, 14 begging them to try CRDT based synchronisation. First, it might have fixed their sync glitches. Second, that would make the client a full copy of the data, very much like a git repo. You can't lose data that way. Third, that would be a step towards collaborative features. We got brushed off. We used personal connections as well as official channels. In 2014 we annoyed them so muc…

CRDTs are objects that can be updated without expensive synchronization/consensus and they are guaranteed to converge eventually if all concurrent updates are commutative (see below) and if all updates are executed by each replica eventually.

https://medium.com/@istanbul_techie/a-look-at-conflict-free-...

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