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Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Post by jordache »

danielvinson wrote: post #19
beneichler wrote: post #2

Ben from Triplebyte here, I'm the engineer who built this tool from our offer data. The finding that most surprised me was that the mean salary for an engineer without a college degree is only $3k (~2%) less than for those with one; this gap is much smaller than in the labor market as a whole. One explanation is that CS really is a field where educational signaling doesn't (or at least needn't) matter as much as in o…

This chart is absolutely beautiful, great job! Is this made using pure D3?

hmm seems like a pretty standard area chart with data update to me.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Post by malvosenior »

umeshunni wrote: post #149
pageandrew wrote: post #43

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Unless you go to a FAANG you're basically going to be accepting compensation close to what's listed here. If you're at a FAANG and get those massive stock packages, then you can really start getting close to the $300k+ total comp packages that people talk about.

Given that FAANG (+Microsoft) employ close to quarter of a million software engineers and probably represent 50%+ of hiring in a given year, it seems weird to ignore those.

250k engineers at FAANG sounds really high. Do you have a source for those numbers?

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Post by S_A_P »

I live in Houston, and I would say most senior (10+ year) full stack developers probably make what your 0-3 year front end developers make. In Houston, ~130k is enough to live an upper middle class life, what does that look like in NY, SF and Seattle?

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Post by cimmanom »

beneichler wrote: post #2

Ben from Triplebyte here, I'm the engineer who built this tool from our offer data. The finding that most surprised me was that the mean salary for an engineer without a college degree is only $3k (~2%) less than for those with one; this gap is much smaller than in the labor market as a whole. One explanation is that CS really is a field where educational signaling doesn't (or at least needn't) matter as much as in o…

What do the medians look like?

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Post by alistairSH »

monocasa wrote: post #106
alistairSH wrote: post #100

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Even better... My wife has a Master of Science, but not an undergraduate degree. That literally makes recruiters and hiring managers do double-takes.

Where did she get it? I've been trying to find a decent college that'd allow me to do the same thing.

American University in DC. She completed the AU/NTL MSOD program. Not sure if they’ll do that for other programs.

It took her a while to find the program. Most wanted an BA/BS first.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Post by akgerber »

nxlouie wrote: post #146
stale2002 wrote: post #112

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> Candidates with stronger resumes are not going to be using third party recruiters This is an interest statement. It is interesting, because the data I am seeing is that apparently Triple Byte is able to give people quite successful results. (Yes, 150k base salary is pretty good). But your statement seems to imply that candidates that use them are apparently below average or something. And yet even though they arent…

I agree. I'd also say Triplebyte's interview process is pretty challenging, more so than big 4 etc for entry level. Being able to pass it is something I'd consider a strong signal.

Really? I found it pretty straightforward, personally. It helped that you'd be able to retake the interview if you failed, which isn't usually true for phone screens. It also helped that it was a large sample of questions about how a computer worked, as opposed to most phone screens which are a single tech question that you can get lucky or unlucky on.

(I tried Triplebyte's process this job hunt but ended up getting my current job through a personal connection instead)

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Post by bitdeveloper »

bobwaycott wrote: post #157
ergothus wrote: post #70

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Not the above poster, but for me - I omit my degree from my resume, because in my mind it was so long ago as to be irrelevant. It's also a bit odd - I have a degree in "Letters, Arts, and Science" - a make-your-own major from Penn State. My last two jobs the recruiters asked me if I had a degree - this came up AFTER they had decided to interview me and when they were entering me in to the system - the degree was just…

I’ve been doing the same (omitting my degree). I really don’t know that mentioning my history degree with minors in French and philosophy are all that informative compared to just talking about what all I’ve done in the last 12 years as a full-time software professional.

In fact, mentioning a History degree might make someone doubt your ability to keep your code DRY...

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Post by cimmanom »

S_A_P wrote: post #174

I live in Houston, and I would say most senior (10+ year) full stack developers probably make what your 0-3 year front end developers make. In Houston, ~130k is enough to live an upper middle class life, what does that look like in NY, SF and Seattle?

These salaries for NY look high to me, and there’s almost no variation based on experience. Whereas in my experience hiring here, entry level is $60-80k and seniors command around $150k.

Now, that’s for startups. Banks will pay twice that.

I’m wondering what the medians look like - the means being displayed may be distorted by the finance and Google outliers.

Edited to add: $60k is a middle class salary for a single person in NYC. (Though people who are unaccustomed to small apartment living / the idea of singles having roommates / the idea that middle class means having to compromise on some expenses will complain otherwise.) I wouldn’t want to try to raise a family of 4 here on that income, though.

$130k is definitely upper middle class for a single person, but a family of 4 on that income is going to have to live way outside the hip areas of the outer boroughs in order to be able to afford housing.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Post by adtac »

dang wrote: post #123
wallflower wrote: post #109

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While I suspect the title will not be changed for SEO/targeting reasons, a slight improvement on your title is: “How much software engineers on Triplebyte received in base salary offers in SF, NYC, and Seattle” Yes, I know HTML titles cannot do any emphasis. EDIT: HN title has now been improved by dang. To be more accurate about “SEO/targeting”, I meant the title on the blog hosted by Triplebyte: “How much money do S…

We're happy to change titles to make them more accurate, but someone's going to need to make it fit 80 chars. Edit: I took a shot. "Triplebyte" doesn't fit, but probably shouldn't be in there anyway; it's already next to the title.

>(Triplebyte) software engineer base salaries in SF, NYC, Seattle

You have 15 more chars to work with.

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