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First .dev Domains Go Live
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Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
They get progressively cheaper as we approach February 28. After that, I believe registrations are free with a $12 maintenance cost.
>free with a $12 maintenance cost So $12?
Free in the sense that there is no initial up-front cost (compared to the pre-sale pricing). Everything else is an initial dollar amount ($11,500, $3,500, $1,150, etc.) in addition to the $12 maintenance cost. After February 28th, there is no up-front cost but there is still a maintenance cost.
Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#173The example domains linked to in the announcement are all down for me: https://get.dev/ https://github.dev/ https://grow.dev/ https://accessibility.dev/ https://slack.dev/ etc.
Working for me; sounds like a DNS issue on your end.
Ah, fudge, yep.
I remember people complaining about the .dev tld for this reason. Many people have it routed locally.
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#174Slack and Github were so worried about someone cybersquatting that they were willing to pay $11,500 each to get those domains today? I guess that's the point of the Dutch auction system, but still seems like a waste of money.
It's the cost of coffee for a couple of days or so.
Is this Venezuelan coffee?
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-venezuela-cafe-con-l...
But note I think you mean the $12 price but that’s only available from the 28th Feb. To buy today it is $11,500 (unless as others have pointed out you got it as part of the trademark sunrise period)
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#175On a recent thread Google personnel mentioned that ICANN forces all domain providers to backup their data so that any domain provider going bankrupt won't affect domains. However there was no mention of what procedures Google Domains themselves have put in place to protect their customers in case their customers get irreversibly banned somewhere within Google's vast empire. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=191787…
For what reasons does Google actually ban accounts?
Credit card chargebacks to the Google store can do it.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google owns Youtube, which bans people for any reason they feel like, including people for whom it had become a full-time job with their channel monetization paying the bills. It is extremely unwise and very much against the founding spirit of the Internet to allow one company this much control, especially one that has shown itself to be censorious in the past.
Wait, does a YT ban extend to all Google products? Does this lock someone out of, say, webmaster tools?
This kind of nonsense happened rather frequently when Google+ was suspending people for using "not-real" names. The suspension extended to youtube, to gmail, and to other services.
Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#177Me: "Wow [myfirstname].dev is available! I gotta get it!" Aaaaaaand its $11,500.
Try to register through Gandi. They give you options that decrease in price all the way down to ~$16 -- that's the "get it when it GAs" price. If someone scoops it up before you, you're refunded. Otherwise, it's yours. I managed to get .dev, and it's a somewhat common last name, for $133.50 on the "GA" pricing. I expect someone will grab it before then. But if not...
It'll be 12$ on get.dev once it hits GA.
Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, it's a Dutch auction. This is the first price step, so everything costs that much today, even adgfhjklhajklsdfghaksdfasdf.dev. The price will go down according to the schedule, and it'll be bought when someone is willing to pay that much for it.
The rich get first pick. How very capitalist.
Actually it seems fairer than a traditional auction, since there is no chance of a bidding war.
Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, it's a Dutch auction. This is the first price step, so everything costs that much today, even adgfhjklhajklsdfghaksdfasdf.dev. The price will go down according to the schedule, and it'll be bought when someone is willing to pay that much for it.
The rich get first pick. How very capitalist.
The auction isn't designed to be fair for all, it's designed to allocate domains efficiently (in the economic sense).
Mr. mslev does not consider [hisfirstname].dev to be worth $11k, so he will not buy it yet. But someone else might consider [hisfirstname].dev to be worth $11k, so they will buy it. However, if nobody else values [hisfirstname].dev much, then Mr. mslev will buy it when it costs $12 (or earlier, if he thinks it's worth more).
So domain XYZ.dev is given to whoever values having XYZ.dev the most. And yes, people need money to demonstrate that they value it so much.
This also helps prevent domain squatting. I would love to buy asdf.dev and apple.dev and facebook.dev and hello.dev. apple.dev and facebook.dev would be worth it even at $11k because you could resell them to the actual companies, but laws effectively prevent this. However, I would not want to buy asdf.dev and hello.dev at $11k unless I know I could resell them for more than $11k. If I could resell them for more than $11k, that means someone else (the buyer) would buy it right now at $11k.
If everything was $12, bad guys would buy up asdf.dev and hello.dev and everything they could get their hands on, but now that's not a valid strategy unless asdf.dev and hello.dev are actually worth that much (or you'll lose money reselling them). And if they are worth $xxx, they will get bought at auction when the price drops to $xxx.
Speed will still win (buy valuable-name.dev at the crack of dawn when auction begins, before anyone else has a chance to, and resell it within hours), but hoarding domains long-term is no longer an effective strategy.
Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#180On a recent thread Google personnel mentioned that ICANN forces all domain providers to backup their data so that any domain provider going bankrupt won't affect domains. However there was no mention of what procedures Google Domains themselves have put in place to protect their customers in case their customers get irreversibly banned somewhere within Google's vast empire. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=191787…
do you have a registrar recommendation? I'm planning on a .dev being my first domain.
I have no good idea how it compares to others these days but Gandi has had pre-registrations for .dev.