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Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by ymolodtsov »

notahacker wrote: post #132
chpmrc wrote: post #89

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Couldn't help it. > For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.

tbf I think the "I don't want to entrust all my notes to a startup that might not be here next year" issue is more relevant to the average person than "but surely you could roll your own if you were a desktop Linux user". On the other hand, I agree normal users don't want software to stick in docker containers, they want a nice friendly GUI that also happens to backup copies of their data somewhere they might be able…

Notion allows you to export your notes. Also, you can say that about any service, even one run by Google.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by Jimpulse »

pbowyer wrote: post #162

I've tried Notion (I've tried most PIMs since 2003) but it didn't fit my brain / what I wanted to do with it. Not enough structure yet too constraining. The closest I've found is Workflowy, but it's just that bit too basic. I store all web clippings in Evernote and hope to find what I want one day. I bookmark heavily into an online service, and wish my tag vocabulary was better constrained (but full text search helps…

Could you try taking a stab at explaining how your mind maps work?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by grumblestumble »

grumblestumble wrote: post #64

This seems like a great tool. What's the security model for this? I get that it's offline first with sync capabilities, but is notion hosting any of this content to facilitate syncing and if so is it encryped etc? Is there an easy way to export all of my content?

On that note, regardless of what the actual answer is here, insight is sorely missing on the brochureware. Conversely, quip.io has an in-depth whitepaper @ https://quip-cdn.com/iR2bxQSxnJmpXi8KbaQ-XQ which is linked to from their global page footer.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by kjksf »

wongarsu wrote: post #91
komali2 wrote: post #70

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That sounds like a good feature - I think the app is trying to replace current jira etc functionality for now, is that something that Jira and other offer?

Jira has a self hosted version at very reasonable price ($10 one time for small teams with a single server up to $500k per year for high availability setups with >50k users). The same is true for all other Atlassian products. https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/pricing?tab=self-man...

That $10 is a bait and switch price.

The next tier is 25 users for $2500. So it went from $1 per user to $100 per user.

JIRA is, by its nature, a multi-user software. The $10 for 10 users is clearly engineered to get small teams to commit to using it and then squeeze them when they grow.

That is a reasonable strategy for what is a product for companies i.e. enterprise software.

It wouldn't work for a product that is primarily for people who are paying from their own pocket, like, I assume, everyone here that expressed the want for a self-hosted version.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by dvtrn »

coldtea wrote: post #127
criddell wrote: post #87

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You're pointing out that there seems to be this unmet demand for a self-hosted markdown based product. Rather than wonder why people keep asking for that, maybe you should include those features in whatever it is that you are building.

Maybe the demand is from the worst kind of users a business would want, those that would never convert to actual customers but want something for to tinker and install for free...

those that would never convert to actual customers but want something for to tinker and install for free...

There also might be a valid demand from those who would want to use the features of a collaboration suite like this for internal projects but find themselves beholden to internal or even client-demanded security/data retention policies.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by andruby »

pbowyer wrote: post #162

I've tried Notion (I've tried most PIMs since 2003) but it didn't fit my brain / what I wanted to do with it. Not enough structure yet too constraining. The closest I've found is Workflowy, but it's just that bit too basic. I store all web clippings in Evernote and hope to find what I want one day. I bookmark heavily into an online service, and wish my tag vocabulary was better constrained (but full text search helps…

I'm in the same boat. I have a vision in mind for how a perfect PIM could look like: a mind-map like structure to organize everything. A pintrest-like UI to list all "cards"/"pages".

I'd love to create an ipad app with pencil support to just draw the mind-map and allow unlimited nested depth.

zenkit.com tries to combine a table/kanban/mind-map visualization, but it's not quite what I want.

It seems like we are all on a quest for a Holy Grail.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by patcon »

This whole all-in-one thing has near-zero appeal to me :/

I have an urge to willfully resist entering monopoly scenarios. I prefer the ability to evolve process through a non-linear opportunity space (though I of course want to insulate the majority of others in my communities from being forced to grapple with that full infinite opportunity space :)

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by kjksf »

deusuxmachina wrote: post #80
komali2 wrote: post #70

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That sounds like a good feature - I think the app is trying to replace current jira etc functionality for now, is that something that Jira and other offer?

jira offers task linking, which I don't think notion does.

Jira is a bug tracker.

Notion is a hierarchical note-taker/wiki with some additional features like simple databases, task lists etc.

They are not the same kind of software.

Also, you can link notion pages. They have a block element that is a link to another page and for inline links you can use the regular link (each notion page has its unique, stable url).

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