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Gmail: Trap my contacts now (warning when exporting contacts to Facebook)

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Re: Gmail: Trap my contacts now (warning when exporting contacts to Facebook)

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huh? Microsoft make windows and office, and don't have a dominant web presence.

Microsoft is an investor in Facebook. So its not likely that a backroom deal between Google and Facebook will happen.

Fair enough. That's a lot clearer than your original comment!

Re: Gmail: Trap my contacts now (warning when exporting contacts to Facebook)

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There is a point that hasn't yet been mentioned here about the fundamental difference between an address book, and Facebook. Facebook is okay to be a dead-end for contacts' emails, since the email upload is used once to find others on the service. After that, if you need to contact someone else on Facebook, you can do so with a wall post or an inbox message. The email address is irrelevant. With an address book, you…

>The email address is irrelevant. I disagree. My usage pattern is to use facebook to find a person, then get their email and contact them through email, since I check my email more frequently than I do my facebook. (which is almost never, since I have it send me anything important by email.)

Sure. But then Facebook doesnt really have a reason to care about you, as a non-user of their service, and keeping data locked in is their best way of keeping you coming back.

Re: Gmail: Trap my contacts now (warning when exporting contacts to Facebook)

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> Facebook is play a greedy game theory strategy by not allowing for a user to download their social graph. You CAN download your graph data. You can get friends lists with UIDs, and that is theoretically AND practically enough to reconstruct the graph on a third party site. The only difference between getting UIDs and emails is the third party site won't be able to spam all your friends or connect you with your frie…

So what if I wanted to use my Facebook contacts to see how many of my Facebook friends were on Buzz or Twitter? Facebook wants us to use our Gmail username and password to import contacts from those services directly into their network but they don't want us importing our contacts into Twitter? I don't get how that is not a greedy thing.

> I don't get how that is not a greedy thing.

Because most of Facebook's users didn't sign up for this. They didn't sign up to necessarily share contact info. They signed up to connect socially. Do you expect twitter to start handing out email addresses of the people that sign up on Twitter.com? No because you sign up on Twitter to share short 140 character messages, not email addresses like you do when you sign up to use Google Contacts.

If a third party application wants your email addresses, you can go give it to them yourself. Otherwise what's the point of Facebook making it dead simple for people to give third party apps your email address? The only reason I can think is that greedy third party apps want to siphon Facebook's built up social graph by using spammy viral emailing techniques as opposed to getting individual users to sign up or add the Facebook application.

Also correct me if I'm wrong, but Facebook does let you compare email hashes. So this allows 3rd party apps/sites to link two users up if they are friends on Facebook.

So in the end yes it is convenient for Facebook to take this stance of not making it easy to export your friends' email addresses but it truly does have a legitimate negative aspect to it. And in the end Facebook still provides the requisite methods to make it easy for people to leave Facebook.

Re: Gmail: Trap my contacts now (warning when exporting contacts to Facebook)

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I approve a warning 1000% - it's not like they are stopping you from exporting. This will slow down my AOL-using friends who gave away all their contact info to Facebook and now I get pelted with spam from Facebook using my name and list of friends (and I don't even have a Facebook account). Google has never spammed me or share my name and location, Facebook does it all the time, pick who's more evil.

http://techcrunch.com/2009/10/26/orkut-slows-hemorraging-to-... Relevant quote from Google: "Mass exportation of email is not standard on most social networks - when a user friends someone they don’t then expect that person to be easily able to send that contact information to a third party along with hundreds of other addresses with just one click" Lets recap: 1. Users use data exporter en masse to abandon Orkut. 2.…

The GMail exporter is not broken, it just warns you.
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