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Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Patents must be abolished. Recommended reading: https://www.amazon.com/Against-Intellectual-Monopoly-Michele...

And replaced with?

Industrial secrecy doesn't seem like a better system. Perhaps you'd like shorter term patents, or want to fix some other deficit?

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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I met/had a similar experience with Google ATAP in 2013 (was Motorala ATAP then; Google recently bought them) though not for a job interview but to discuss working together to build our tech SpeakerBlast into the Moto X. They asked if we ever thought about selling our technology to them before the meeting and at the meeting they baited us for how our tech worked saying we'd like to work with you tell us how it works.…

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Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People don't get to the top by being ethical. They get to the top of the org chart by playing politics. Many of them are practically psychopaths.

The good news is that very few people are at the top. Most are in the middle, and it's entirely possible to be ethical and in a good middling position.

The psychopaths at the top are a lucky minority of a mass of psychopaths, most of which prosper a bit less at middle levels in organizations. Only low-functioning psychopaths are exposed and thrown out, and usually only by chance because of specific incidents.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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> I was even invited to share my work directly with Regina Dugan, the director of ATAP at that time! I was excited, thinking perhaps I would be invited for a summer internship. It turned out they found my work so relevant that they offered me a job on the spot. > It was a tough choice: I had just started the first year of my PhD and would’ve had to take a leave from the program to pursue this project. After asking ma…

An MIT Phd opens many doors in many areas and will do throughout your life. Trust me, you won’t always be young and you won’t always be interested in the same thing. It shouldn’t be, but it is way more difficult to get high level professional qualifications when you’re older. The expectation that reaearch students are young is quite embedded.

How much is expectations vs the reality of life circumstances? I’m mid-40s and almost surely slightly slower in raw intellect than I was 20 years ago, but being married with two young kids is much more of a limitation on my ability to earn a PhD or even MBA than any inate degradation.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Had this already 3 times that interviewers ask me out about their Engineering problems, and how I would solve them. Initially I got good or very good feedback but then afterwards was rejected. It feels weird, also if I consider that they might do this with every person interviewed. Crowdsourcing knowledge through interviews, yay ;) Seems far more appropriate to get toy problems, if that is needed at all, or to get sc…

I don’t think there’s bad intent here, just a case of the interviewer wanting to offer up a challenge and taking the one that is top of mind.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #98

It’s down to individuals rather than culture in these things. By purely statistics, an organisation of any size has less than ethical people in it even if they have the best outward impression. Unfortunately these sorts of people tend to favour power and slowly work their way to positions that give them that. Then the whole org is a bad apple. Having been in a similar situation before, the correct answer is “I’ll get…

Culture is created by individuals. But the fact that Google gives large bonuses to employees for giving their patent lawyers topics to pursue is a huge incentive for unethical behavior like described in these anecdotes.

As for the rest of your argument, there’s a big gap between the people who love to share ideas and tech and the people who want to monetize every drop of IP. I think it would take a pretty twisted or cynical mind to even think of patenting something like an electronics-integrated storybook. This is not a remotely new idea (story/picture books with embedded electronics have been around for decades), and there’s no fundamental innovation at the root of these patents. This is just the worst impulses of VC culture out of control.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

#177

I met/had a similar experience with Google ATAP in 2013 (was Motorala ATAP then; Google recently bought them) though not for a job interview but to discuss working together to build our tech SpeakerBlast into the Moto X. They asked if we ever thought about selling our technology to them before the meeting and at the meeting they baited us for how our tech worked saying we'd like to work with you tell us how it works.…

> Google whose motto is "Don't Be Evil," can't act in the same fashion?

may be that's why they change it with doing right things (for own purpose) - https://bgr.com/2015/10/04/google-dont-be-evil-alphabet/

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #93
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone needs to add this incident to her Wikipedia page.

Not saying it's not Wikipedia material, but perhaps a site nice and searchable site of misdeeds so we won't forget? Does something like this already exist?

Have had that idea when I was younger. I no longer support this idea, because I realize that nobody else wants that site to exist.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

#180

Patents must be abolished. Recommended reading: https://www.amazon.com/Against-Intellectual-Monopoly-Michele...

And replaced with? Industrial secrecy doesn't seem like a better system. Perhaps you'd like shorter term patents, or want to fix some other deficit?

In software it is well known that nobody reads patents who does the actual work in the field. Getting rid of them would not have a meaningful downside in the dissemination of information. Most people in the industry agree software patents are bad for the software industry and they should be abolished.

But, if that’s true for software, why isn’t it true for other fields? Simply put: what evidence is there patents are a benefit to society instead of a harm?

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