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My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I'm actually surprised that as a 'Principal Architect' he was only making $208,000 a year. Considering that entry-level positions at large companies which can have cash compensation of around $150,000+, it seems he may have been 'underpaid'. Of course $208,000 is nothing to scoff at, and money is hardly the most important thing when it comes to life. Just interesting to see that a reasonably large Bay-area company wo…

In the US, maybe. In other countries like the UK, a principal architect is probably not getting half that. I would guess from a quick google that an architect in the UK is on around £50k to £70k. Which is $63k to $90k. I'm a senior software engineer with around 10years experience. I'm on £38k ($48k) plus a very small bonus, maybe £2 to £3k if I'm lucky. Last job was a mid-level engineer on £28k. I've seen junior deve…

Assuming your outside of London?

Principle architect on £150-200k is entirely usual in the smoker.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Straight out of college (all Bay Area companies): 2015: Software Engineer (Company A) 120k + 10k signing bonus + worthless options 2016: Senior Software Engineer (Startup B) 145k + worthless options 2016: Software Engineer (Startup C) 145k + worthless options 2017: Software Engineer (Startup C) 150k + worthless options 2018: Software Engineer (Company D) 150k + 20k signing bonus + 230k RSUs/4 years + 10% performance…

Senior software engineer after one year?

At a startup, where the title for your position can be more or less teneously attached to the actual role (e.g. CTO at a two-person startup is more in line with a software engineer at a big company).

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Good point. One more point - salaries differ vastly in the same company too. These days it happens in many companies that a very senior folk with 10+ years experience makes something like 2000000 INR (28000 USD) but a fresh college undergraduate is made an offer that is 3000000 INR (41000 INR). It sounds contradictory and pisses the senior folks off but that's the reality of the Indian IT market today.

are you giving factual information or are just pissed off on tier 1 college freshers getting such salary. Not every fresher get such salaries

I agree not every fresher gets such salaries. The actual figure depends on the company. A company could be paying less to a fresher. Is 1500000 rupees or 2000000 rupees a good number for you? Then in the same company it is possible that there are people with 10+ years of experience who are earning 5% to 25% less than that.

But my 3000000 rupees example is not unusual. You can see madmax108's comment in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18343962 where he was earning more than 3500000 without being from IIT in just 3.5 years of experience. Not a fresher exactly but when I had 9 years of experience I was earning less than that!

Also see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18343659 where someone says fresher salaries of 60000 USD (4400000 INR). So I don't think my example is unusual.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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In the US, maybe. In other countries like the UK, a principal architect is probably not getting half that. I would guess from a quick google that an architect in the UK is on around £50k to £70k. Which is $63k to $90k. I'm a senior software engineer with around 10years experience. I'm on £38k ($48k) plus a very small bonus, maybe £2 to £3k if I'm lucky. Last job was a mid-level engineer on £28k. I've seen junior deve…

I'm the Systems Architect in a small (fifteen people) non-IT consultancy, and I'm on £72k, so I'd say your estimates are bang on.

As a small-town-developer, I'm on ~50k as a boring, middle-of-the-road corporate dev.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I'm actually surprised that as a 'Principal Architect' he was only making $208,000 a year. Considering that entry-level positions at large companies which can have cash compensation of around $150,000+, it seems he may have been 'underpaid'. Of course $208,000 is nothing to scoff at, and money is hardly the most important thing when it comes to life. Just interesting to see that a reasonably large Bay-area company wo…

In the US, maybe. In other countries like the UK, a principal architect is probably not getting half that. I would guess from a quick google that an architect in the UK is on around £50k to £70k. Which is $63k to $90k. I'm a senior software engineer with around 10years experience. I'm on £38k ($48k) plus a very small bonus, maybe £2 to £3k if I'm lucky. Last job was a mid-level engineer on £28k. I've seen junior deve…

Are you in London? If so those numbers seem really low.

Source: I'm a junior engineer being paid in the mid 30s, most of the seniors I know make well north of £60-70k.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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If you earn 3 times as much, but wind up spending 3 times as much, you are still saving 3 times as much. It's almost always better to get high pay in a high CoL area, than to get low pay in a low CoL area.

Working from paycheck to paycheck you don't earn 3 times as much and you don't save. Most of my friends who live here can't afford to buy a house, they rent. Almost all my friends who left SF Bay were able to buy within months. Cost of living and the housing prices in SF Bay are extremely disproportionate to salaries.

If they could buy within months, does that not imply there were in fact saving? Just their savings seemed small until moving?

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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post #148

I'm actually surprised that as a 'Principal Architect' he was only making $208,000 a year. Considering that entry-level positions at large companies which can have cash compensation of around $150,000+, it seems he may have been 'underpaid'. Of course $208,000 is nothing to scoff at, and money is hardly the most important thing when it comes to life. Just interesting to see that a reasonably large Bay-area company wo…

In the US, maybe. In other countries like the UK, a principal architect is probably not getting half that. I would guess from a quick google that an architect in the UK is on around £50k to £70k. Which is $63k to $90k. I'm a senior software engineer with around 10years experience. I'm on £38k ($48k) plus a very small bonus, maybe £2 to £3k if I'm lucky. Last job was a mid-level engineer on £28k. I've seen junior deve…

UK market is changing a lot.

You can get lead roles for 100k+ at least in London without having to go to finance.

I've seen most mid level roles in London go for between 50-60k.

Outside of the capital is very different.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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post #148

I'm actually surprised that as a 'Principal Architect' he was only making $208,000 a year. Considering that entry-level positions at large companies which can have cash compensation of around $150,000+, it seems he may have been 'underpaid'. Of course $208,000 is nothing to scoff at, and money is hardly the most important thing when it comes to life. Just interesting to see that a reasonably large Bay-area company wo…

In the US, maybe. In other countries like the UK, a principal architect is probably not getting half that. I would guess from a quick google that an architect in the UK is on around £50k to £70k. Which is $63k to $90k. I'm a senior software engineer with around 10years experience. I'm on £38k ($48k) plus a very small bonus, maybe £2 to £3k if I'm lucky. Last job was a mid-level engineer on £28k. I've seen junior deve…

I'm a senior software engineer and am earning £70k in Edinburgh. You may be getting underpaid depending on where you are.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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post #132

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The hours of work per week varies. Some weeks it is 5-10 hours per week. Some weeks it is 30-40 hours per week. Sometimes I had to stretch to work for 10 hours at a time. Such days are rare but they happen sometimes. This pattern has been like this in all my jobs from the beginning (2003). The days off per year in my current job is just like any other company in India. Apart from 104 weekends and 10 government holida…

" Some weeks it is 5-10 hours per week" That's a pretty important data point! There are exceptions but I'd say very, very few people doing 200k+ in SV are working less than 40 hours per week, much less ever working 10 hours per week.

Well, some of us spend hours per day slacking on HN :)
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