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Re: The Growth of Reddit

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Post by ThomPete »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #156
ThomPete wrote: post #145

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Not sure what violence in Seattle have to do with whether you need to get politically involved. There are lots of reasons why people get assaulted most of them have nothing to do with sexual orientation. Yes, you can decide to do something about it politically but you can also choose to just not come to those places again just like a family who can afford it would move away from the ghettos. That doesn't mean you hav…

If you are unwelcome in enough places, you run out of places to go. If you live in the internet era and know before you go that there's no place free of such, it can easily be a case that standing your ground here and now is the most sensible reaction.

Not if you do it like its done here in this thread. I made a general statement about politics now we are talking identity politics. I am as liberal as they come but this attemp to sneak it into every conversation is not getting you the support you need. It becomes noise no matter how well intended it is.

Re: The Growth of Reddit

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Post by ThomPete »

spookthesunset wrote: post #154
ThomPete wrote: post #145

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Not sure what violence in Seattle have to do with whether you need to get politically involved. There are lots of reasons why people get assaulted most of them have nothing to do with sexual orientation. Yes, you can decide to do something about it politically but you can also choose to just not come to those places again just like a family who can afford it would move away from the ghettos. That doesn't mean you hav…

> Not sure what violence in Seattle have to do with whether you need to get politically involved. Because that violence, like most issues in life, is rooted in politics. You cannot escape politics no matter how much you dislike it. The fact that you want to escape, or even can escape politics is in itself political. The fact that HN for whatever reason discourages politics is also politically driven. Politics is life…

It's a nice conspiracy theory it just doesn't have much to do with reality. You don't win people over politically on the internet, especially not by force-feeding identity politics into everything.

Re: The Growth of Reddit

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Post by babyloneleven »

kdamken wrote: post #146
HiroshiSan wrote: post #109

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Not to mention their dark patterns to get you to install the mobile app while browsing on mobile.

If you hit the hamburger icon you can turn off the constant asking you to open the app pop ups.

It's still a dark pattern.

Re: The Growth of Reddit

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Post by SpanishConf »

naravara wrote: post #76
chrisco255 wrote: post #21

In many ways, Reddit reminds me more of the "old internet" than Facebook or Twitter. There seems to be better discussions, more variety, and even quite a bit of experimentation going on within certain subreddits. It feels like a freer place and that much I like. I still don't like that people get into their own bubbles and do little to bridge the gaps between political and ideological differences, but it certainly fe…

>I still don't like that people get into their own bubbles and do little to bridge the gaps between political and ideological differences Leaving your comment moderation duties up to majoritarian voting is inevitably going to do that.

Also internet anonymity brings extremism out of people.

IRL, when debating another person, most people IMO wouldn't be at least half as extremist as they're on reddit or HN

Re: The Growth of Reddit

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Post by detaro »

SpanishConf wrote: post #174
naravara wrote: post #76

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>I still don't like that people get into their own bubbles and do little to bridge the gaps between political and ideological differences Leaving your comment moderation duties up to majoritarian voting is inevitably going to do that.

Also internet anonymity brings extremism out of people. IRL, when debating another person, most people IMO wouldn't be at least half as extremist as they're on reddit or HN

The Facebook-based comment sections on some news sites make me question that.

Re: The Growth of Reddit

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Post by mercer »

bspammer wrote: post #116
naravara wrote: post #75

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it never occurred to me before, but seeing it in a chart like this it really seems like Reddit has basically just turned into Gamers and their side interests, politics, and a few vestiges of old Reddit, like AskReddit, which at this point might as well be their own separate site for what all they have to do with the main demographic. The Video Game sphere takes up a huge chunk of it. Then many of the other subs are b…

Strange that you say the dedicated meme parts of reddit are gone. In my mind they're more active than ever, between /r/me_irl, /r/prequelmemes, /r/deepfriedmemes, and if you really want the old fashioned stuff /r/adviceanimals is still surprisingly active.

While the whole 'meme' thing has definitely affected/infected my life, I do find myself getting tired of a lot of it. Notable exceptions are /r/freefolk and /r/dankchristianmemes

I'm at a point where memes in themselves have become a bit of an interest of study. Why do I enjoy the aforementioned meme-y subreddits more than others? I'd like to think it's because there's a certain creativity and unicity to them, but I can't be sure. Assuming I'm right about that, what is it that makes them work in a way that, say, /r/prequelmemes doesn't (anymore)?

And I guess more importantly, how did I get to the point where I'm asking questions that are multiple layers of 'meta', and how might this affect my general wellbeing?

(I suppose the pragmatic answer is that regardless of how meta it gets, reddit is probably best in moderation, like most things. And an interesting in the whole process is not inherently tied to how much time I spend actively consuming/participating)

Re: The Growth of Reddit

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Post by austincheney »

nurino wrote: post #167
austincheney wrote: post #139

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I deleted my account out of frustration early this year. Discussion is simply not important. Demonizing opposing opinions is very important though. Very much an anti libertarian echo chamber.

No offence but apart from HN I wonder what community takes libertarians seriously? In fact from my experience they are mostly non-existent outside of the US, so much that libertarians are a staple of the American culture for me.

> No offence but apart from HN I wonder what community takes libertarians seriously?

Allow me to rephrase. Are you immediately fearful or deeply (emotionally) offended by original opinions or opinions challenge assertions you care deeply about but are not fully informed of? Libertarianism is simply the idea of individual independence (each individual is equal) which is the opposite of democracy (majority rules). John Stuart Mills spells this out in his On Liberty book.

The most clear example of absurdity is challenging the belief that WASM is replacing JavaScript. The position on this issue is stated by Mozilla, the WASM working group, and individual contributors to the WASM spec. Regardless of what the technology, or what's the authors mention, people form an independent reality and demonize anything contrary in an aggressive manner. Contrary opinions are taken as a personal threat necessarily demanding punishment.

Re: The Growth of Reddit

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Post by naravara »

spookthesunset wrote: post #150
naravara wrote: post #84

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Signing in puts you at risk of getting sucked into pointless internet comment arguments though.

> Signing in puts you at risk of getting sucked into pointless internet comment arguments though. ....says a person signed into HN engaged in pointless internet comment arguments....

I don’t have a problem. I can quit anytime I want

Re: The Growth of Reddit

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Post by naravara »

SpanishConf wrote: post #174
naravara wrote: post #76

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>I still don't like that people get into their own bubbles and do little to bridge the gaps between political and ideological differences Leaving your comment moderation duties up to majoritarian voting is inevitably going to do that.

Also internet anonymity brings extremism out of people. IRL, when debating another person, most people IMO wouldn't be at least half as extremist as they're on reddit or HN

Anonymity is part of it, but I think an understated part is just lack of community. The people are just names on a screen and it’s easy to lose sight of the fact that they’re people.

The interface of reddit and HN kind of encourage this. Old PHP BBs used to have avatar pics and signature blocks and stuff that distinguished your post as yours. It sort of anchored your “content” to an identity, so over time a community develops and people start to develop reputations and stuff. That doesn’t happen as much when everything is visually indistinct from everything else.

Re: The Growth of Reddit

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Post by naravara »

doublepg23 wrote: post #132
naravara wrote: post #75

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it never occurred to me before, but seeing it in a chart like this it really seems like Reddit has basically just turned into Gamers and their side interests, politics, and a few vestiges of old Reddit, like AskReddit, which at this point might as well be their own separate site for what all they have to do with the main demographic. The Video Game sphere takes up a huge chunk of it. Then many of the other subs are b…

this is a very weird take. I've been on Reddit for 6+ years and if anything it's gotten way way more diverse than just "gaming".

I’m taking about volume of users in the aggregate based on that chart. Not any individual’s curated feed.
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