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The Bermuda Triangle of Wealth

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" The price of college education is going up much faster than the cost of providing it. If you look at tuition vs what a professor is paid, one goes up much faster than the other. " That's the most important question. Same applies to health care. Where does the money actually go and how has that changed over the last 50 years? Everybody immediately complains about their favorite scapegoat but there is no comprehensiv…

Regulation inevitably squeezes it into government one way or another. The only long-term beneficiaries are the government itself which constantly requires more funding through any means possible, and those involved in regulatory capture - typically banks and large corporations. It is important to note that relaxation of regulation is important as well, since the direction of that easement usually favors banks and big…

That´s not actually the case for the United States, if you look at government spending carefully, it´s actually shrinking as a percentage of the total money supply. People who like to claim that it´s growing, invariably fail to factor inflation and/or money supply growth into their charts.

The actual answer appears to be that it´s being squeezed into the financial sector by several positive feedback loops operating around lending, and in particular securitized lending - but that´s not the sort of answer that helps to pander to populist sentiment, and securitized lending is a trillion dollar industry - so you won´t see it discussed very much.

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> Google tells me that the most common reason for hospitalization in the US is childbirth. Thankfully, here in San Francisco, that would only set me back $15,000 Surely this is not true? Does having kids just bankrupt ordinary people in the US or what? I'm not asking about exceptional cases, like what is the normal way of dealing with having to pay $15,000 just to have a baby climb out of your body, when I'm assuming…

Having a child is really expensive if you don't have health insurance. You can negotiate that cost in advance, but I don't know if people really do that very often.

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You (or one of your countrymen) pay for it with taxes, that isn't the same as it costing $0. Now, it likely a) does cost a lot less in Denmark than in the States in real terms and b) paying for it with taxes might absolutely make the most operational sense. But it isn't free.

wooo, I hadn't realized we pay for it with taxes! Wow thanks for correcting me, this sure has been a week for me, why yesterday I just barely learned that water was wet - imagine that!?!

So how much did it cost you to have a baby in Denmark, just so the conversation is clarified?

Also as an aside there are lots of babies born in the US that are paid for via taxes and cost $0 out of pocket for the family. Medicaid, the VA, Tri-care etc. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I'd bet that there were more American babies that were tax paid for than Danish ones in a given year.

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Is that 60k a year just housing and food or guards and administration too? I'd hope there were more guards and security measures in place for prisoners than for college kids.

Yes, but that's probably offset by professors, researches, et al. (as well as better accommodations, food, entertainment). It's not apples to apples, but it felt roughly comparable.

I hear ya. Thanks for the clarification.

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What the linked article is trying to explain is that the opposite is true. It isn't that everyone wants to live in the trendiest areas, it's that they _have_ to in order to find a job that has any hope of paying off their debts fast enough for them to save up enough so that when the next huge expense comes through they can afford it... likely taking on more debt even so. It isn't that everyone wants a degree - certai…

I disagree. I think it would be interesting to do that same article, but replace the MIT tuition with that of a decent in state school, and replace the housing prices with those of a medium/large midwest city like Omaha, Cleveland, or Pittsburg. Salaries don't scale like rent does. In Cleveland, you can get a 1 bedroom for around 900 dollars, in SF, that's 3.5k+. That means to maintain the same purchasing power and k…

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Re: The Bermuda Triangle of Wealth

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He misses what I consider a major issue. The price of college education is going up much faster than the cost of providing it. If you look at tuition vs what a professor is paid, one goes up much faster than the other. If you look at housing costs things don't add up either - renting an apartment seems to be a source of revenue for the schools. These are the obvious places the schools are making a ton of money - wher…

These are the obvious places the schools are making a ton of money - where does it go? This is exactly the reason why I don't donate to my alma mater, neither should most people. Less "alma mater" and more "greedy mater who funnels taxpayer money into a growing bureaucracy".

I decided not to donate to my college when I saw them moving an entire historical house up a hill. They're a major research university with a $3 billion dollar endowment, a Pac-12 football team, and the largest employer in Washington State after its own government. I'm pretty sure my $100/month has more utility to more people at a food bank, than it would at that school.

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Continuing that sentence... > ...unless of course we needed a C-section, in which case it’ll be a casual $30,000. In India, we got c-section done in a luxurious hospital in a suite ward for slightly over $1K. About 80% of that was covered by insurance. Even if it wasn't that kind of money is a typical middle class family in India can easily afford. Note that I'm talking about top of the line hospital so the median co…

In the UK a C-section costs an average of 2219USD to the NHS, This cost disparity is not one of developed world vs undeveloped, it is one of an insane health care system vs a rational one.

In the UK, nurses are also hardly paid living wages [1]. Particularly in high cost of living areas like London. About USD15/HR for an experienced band 5 nurse.

[1]https://www.rcn.org.uk/employment-and-pay/nhs-pay-scales-201...

Re: The Bermuda Triangle of Wealth

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post #171

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Regulation inevitably squeezes it into government one way or another. The only long-term beneficiaries are the government itself which constantly requires more funding through any means possible, and those involved in regulatory capture - typically banks and large corporations. It is important to note that relaxation of regulation is important as well, since the direction of that easement usually favors banks and big…

That´s not actually the case for the United States, if you look at government spending carefully, it´s actually shrinking as a percentage of the total money supply. People who like to claim that it´s growing, invariably fail to factor inflation and/or money supply growth into their charts. The actual answer appears to be that it´s being squeezed into the financial sector by several positive feedback loops operating a…

As I pointed out: entities involved in regulatory capture.

Money creation through debt is another topic, but still benefits primarily the same parties.

Re: The Bermuda Triangle of Wealth

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I would hope it’s common knowledge nowadays, at least amongst the educated, that you should call your insurance or check their website for in network providers. I can call mine and find out how much certain procedures or codes cost, and if it’s not an exact amount, they can usually give a pretty good estimate. Also, I would expect any service to cost 50% more in the Bay Area.

You'd do all that complicated paperwork while semi-unconscious with pain before an emergency appendectomy?

No, you do all the complicated paperwork before the emergency, so you already know exactly what to do when things go wrong.

How well things go during an emergency depends on how much effort you put into preparing ahead of time. Nothing new or strange about that.

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