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Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by browsercoin » Sat, Sep 01, 2018, 4:19 AM UTC

DrNuke wrote: post #82

browsercoin wrote: post #79

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Why do you need a blockchain database specifically? What properties of it is relevant here?

Privacy first, so that you can disclose to third parties and to the general public at large the relevant and decentrally validated bits only, in pound-for-pound time and space contrast with any fake, AI-generated medium imho.

what you wrote makes no sense, can you provide an example scenario?

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by eivarv » Sat, Sep 01, 2018, 10:01 AM UTC

IshKebab wrote: post #100

eivarv wrote: post #69

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How would blockchain solve the issue?

It lets you prove a file was not modified after a certain point in time. So if you have two similar videos that are both timestamped you can prove which one is the original. This idea dates back to way before bitcoin. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_timestamping

You only prove which was timestamped first, though - not which is the original.

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by lovingdancer » Sun, Sep 02, 2018, 3:15 AM UTC

As a dancer & instructor of over 18 years, I think this technology is fascinating. I actually think it would be most effective as a teaching tool for my students. Often times, since the kids are so focused on the physicality of the steps, I find a disconnect between the visual and physical experience as they train, i.e. the kids don't realize that the steps/movements they make are in attempt to create visual shapes and lines. They run around the studio 'feeling themselves' (precious), but at the end of the year on-stage, the choreography suffers from this visual connection.

I appreciate that the detected poses and motions create clear pictures for what different parts of the body are doing. Particularly for ballet, if I had access to this technology (in a way that was user friendly), I'd love to see the difference between ballet styles (Vaganova, Cechetti, ABT, ect). I think it would be much clearer from a students' perspective, to see the stylistic difference in lines, shapes and movement.

This AI reminds me of Happy Feet, where they took Savion Glover's movement and choreography and applied it to the animation penguin. It doesn't seem too far-fetched. And lastly, for those who say this seems unnatural--dancing is unnatural to the body, hence the training and years put into it. So having an AI applied to it will only make it look more unnatural.

Artistically, this can be debated (as it has been), but in search for 'real life application,' I'd love to get my hands on this as a teaching tool.

sorry for the long post--this is my first time on this site--my boyfriend sent this to me & warned me that if i blabbed too long, this post would not be successful.

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by gpvos » Sun, Sep 02, 2018, 9:38 AM UTC

mattmanser wrote: post #94

gpvos wrote: post #65

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Interesting! Do you have examples where it is possible to hear these unnatural overtones?

Pick up any modern pop record. Some are worse than others, but all are auto tuned. Just Google worst auto-tune for examples, because it's so common now, most people don't notice it. Here's a list of some examples: http://www.hometracked.com/2008/02/05/auto-tune-abuse-in-pop... Also, if you're not really musical you might have a hard time picking it out. I found that as soon as I learnt an instrument, songs suddenly b…

I've played piano and sung for most of my life, but I wouldn't have recognized many of these if you hadn't pointed them out, though I do recognize many structures and mistakes in music.

It seems to be more about recognizing the small glitches, rather than something involving overtones, which I would really have liked to learn more about how to recognize them. I have long found that autotuned singing sounds a bit more "metallic" to me.

Thanks anyway, the sound samples are useful in recognizing it better.

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by xiphias » Mon, Sep 03, 2018, 8:05 AM UTC

Jaruzel wrote: post #59

xiphias wrote: post #35

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Sounds interesting, thanks! I had a few informative but controversial comments in the past... that may be the reason.

Seconded, I just had to vouch for you in the above comment to un-dead it. Aha, it was when you said this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15725493

I see, thanks! I didn't get any explanation for which rule I was banned. Inside Google it's well known that she had a relationship with Larry, although for us it was not allowed to have any kind of romantic relationship with our superior, as it can be used for carrier advancement.

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by bryanrasmussen » Tue, Sep 04, 2018, 7:16 AM UTC

taneq wrote: post #147

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #115

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Is it uncanny then?

That... would be the implication, yes.

Ok you meant the movements of the 'dancers' were uncanny, as opposed to the technical prowess demonstrated? I thought that the not canny comment referred to the tech, not the result, and it didn't seem sensible given other things to describe the tech as uncanny.