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Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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Post by lgessler » Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 2:38 AM UTC

ColinWright wrote: post #162

lgessler wrote: post #56

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This is an Anki deck that was made from the book I used: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1657789477 I made my own Anki deck because this deck didn't have tags by chapter, and I wanted to study only the words I'd been exposed to so far.

Thanks for that - do you know if there is a way to export the list of words without going through the full process of installing Anki? I'm interested in different people's concept of "the thousand most useful words" and would love to extract the list you've used. It seems like it would be less overall work for you to do it than for me to do it, although I realise I'm asking you to do work. Thanks.

Looks like the APKG format is a SQL dump[0], so perhaps, depending on how determined you are. My cards wouldn't be too useful as they are because many cards contain English prompts ("Which verb forms must have their direct objects incorporated into bound states?"), and the cards that do contain words have various inconsistencies depending on the part of speech, such as lemma-like forms that you would never see in an actual text as-is for prepositions, or multiple conjugation bases for verbs. So yeah, it'd be a hassle to put it into a normalized format. Sorry about that.

Not sure what the nature of your interest is, but I'm sure you must be familiar with what a Swadesh list[1] is? It's only a couple hundred instead of a thousand, and the words (or rather, their meanings) are chosen in advance, but it's a close concept.

[0]: http://decks.wikia.com/wiki/Anki_APKG_format_documentation

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swadesh_list

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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Post by lgessler » Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 2:40 AM UTC

Havoc wrote: post #166

lgessler wrote: post #23

I couldn't imagine learning a language without Anki. I had to learn Coptic in a month, which required memorizing the most common ~1000 words in the language. Anki made this as easy as it can be. I don't think I would have been able to meet my deadline had I been making paper flashcards or using some more informal system. The nice thing about Anki is that you can use it at any time without any overhead associated with…

>I had to learn Coptic in a month What kind of job do you do?

I'm a PhD student in computational linguistics. My advisor is the principal for a repository of digitized Coptic texts[1], and while I wasn't required to learn the language as a part of my role as a research assistant on this project, I wanted to because it'd make my contributions better. (And I had a couple of months of free time in the summer after I quit my job and before I started school.)

[1]: http://copticscriptorium.org/

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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Post by garden » Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 3:15 AM UTC

I use Anki everyday for medical school and for personal learning-- geography, notes from books I've read, research ideas I've thought up I want to review later, etc.

If you put in the time (I do at least 45 minutes of Anki a day, which turns out to be roughly 300 cards, 50+ of which are new) and you're consistent, the volume of information you can retain is truly staggering.

I have a retention rate of 90.1% and I've learned 15000 cards over the last 16 months.

About 2000 of those cards are my own-- the rest are fromv arious premade medical decks. Using premade decks is perfectly fine, but you do need to make you get a first pass of the material through some other method first-- Anki is not ideal for learning material, just retaining it.

Mnemonics can be successfully integrated into Anki cards-- but I think they're best for information that's easily confused with other bits or for really tedious stuff. Example: remembering which random medical drug is best for which genetic mutation, or which chromosome is mutated in which disease. Stuff like that is just pure tedium-- so translate it into images with the Major Mnemonic System or into memorable images like Sketchy Microbiology does.

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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Post by Havoc » Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 12:20 PM UTC

lgessler wrote: post #172

Havoc wrote: post #166

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>I had to learn Coptic in a month What kind of job do you do?

I'm a PhD student in computational linguistics. My advisor is the principal for a repository of digitized Coptic texts[1], and while I wasn't required to learn the language as a part of my role as a research assistant on this project, I wanted to because it'd make my contributions better. (And I had a couple of months of free time in the summer after I quit my job and before I started school.) [1]: http://copticscrip…

That's really cool. Was expecting more of a intel / research role answer, but that makes a lot of sense

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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Post by misiti3780 » Wed, Sep 05, 2018, 4:11 PM UTC

xkfm wrote: post #86

aasasd wrote: post #78

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There's a plugin for Anki for incremental reading: https://github.com/luoliyan/incremental-reading (Though I'm not sure how the internal database structure works with that, I think you can't save the whole text along with a deck instead of individual notes―but maybe addons can change that.)

I tried it awhile ago, and it didn't work well, but I'll try it again. Incremental reading is kind of finicky to get right. Incremental reading is the real draw of these programs for me, and Supermemo (despite it's flaws) is kind of the only one that has a decent implementation of it.

I tried it and it did not work well as well - I have been thinking about building a piece of software to solve this issue because I find incremental reading so useful (potentially)