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Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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Holy smokes! That is a freakin' awesome deep dive into a bug that has be irritating the crap out of me of late. My gmail window would just freeze for long periods of time, other windows were fine, and restarting the browser (Chrome) would fix it for a while. I had zero idea how I would figure out what it was doing, now I have a road map for looking at these kinds of things. Clearly some tools to play with there.

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the concerns in your comment are real, but they can be boiled down to one simple fact: Moore's law is dead. Our processors are now not advancing nearly as quickly as people can create solutions for them. Case in point - Virtual Reality, which has technically been on the market for years, but out of reach for most users. If processors are not improving, everything else slows down. Graphics, games, and the internet…

The internet, sure. But GPUs will figure out new ways to parallelize, which is not dead yet.

The problem is not that we cannot parallelize hardware. The problem is that the software making use of it is lacking. 24 cores is plenty, but if most software only uses one core even more cores won't help.

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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I'm running Manjaro Linux with Deepin Desktop on a Dual core 0.9Ghz CPU with 8 GB of memory. Boot speed from off to login is less than 5 seconds. From hibernate it's instant. My girlfriend brought similar desktop to work and people with windows couldn't believe the machine was that fast. It runs circles around their new windows laptops with tons of memory and cpu cores. Firefox loads in a second. Kingsoft office also…

So some code has quirks/bugs and your conclusion is that people should switch to Linux...

There's this concept of right tool for the right job. And even if you save 2 seconds of boot time, that is meaningless when you encounter a similar bug with your software and waste a day, or when you simply waste time because you needlessly switched to an unfamiliar OS.

Just as a note, I have a Windows 10 booting on a decade old Lenovo netbook. That's a single core 1.6GHz Atom with 1.5GB RAM. It boots in ~10s. Much of it is BIOS. And yes, I can type an email with no issues. You should really try switching to Windows 10 and this dirt cheap netbook. :)

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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post #46

I just kind of figured we'd stop having UI lag by now. I work on a 24 core workstation with 64GB of RAM and things lag all the time. Not slow to complete, like jittery key entry and non-responses. Haven't we figured out thread prioritization by now? Can't we make sure something draws 60 times per second while things are going on in the background? My Android Studio build should be totally isolated from my inbox. I kn…

We probably need to be using a real time OS like QNX or other.

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

#178

I'm running Manjaro Linux with Deepin Desktop on a Dual core 0.9Ghz CPU with 8 GB of memory. Boot speed from off to login is less than 5 seconds. From hibernate it's instant. My girlfriend brought similar desktop to work and people with windows couldn't believe the machine was that fast. It runs circles around their new windows laptops with tons of memory and cpu cores. Firefox loads in a second. Kingsoft office also…

I get less than 5 second from off to login on a 5 years old Windows 10 laptop (dual core, 10 GB, SSD). So there are options that can work fast, not just on Linux.

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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post #39

On a completely different matter... have just switched to Gmail new UI, and now my mac Mail keeps hanging on threaded emails while consuming very high CPU. Anyone else encountered this issue?

What browser? For the last couple of years it seems I'll get some issues on some Google properties if I dare use a different browser than Chrome. For a while it was search results doing interval training on my CPU, while the page was supposedly idle. Last it got to the point where I started troubleshooting it was calendar that acted up. You'd think a company like Google had resources to verify the UI across at least…

> You'd think a company like Google had resources to verify the UI across at least the 3 or for biggest browsers

Should they ever want to do that. I think I've read multiple discussions in the past about how Google is optimizing exclusively for Chrome while hurting the performance and compatibility with any other browser. Which is why Chrome is now basically called the new IE6.

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