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Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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This was my experience as well. It reminded of running Gentoo Linux a long time ago. Awesome feeling of accomplishment, but not practical if you have a day job.

Gentoo? I don't think it is quite good comparision.

How about Arch Linux then? I love it and hate it at the same time. Rolling updates are amazing until they hose your system and you have to roll back updates.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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I can tell you from experience that building a Hackintosh is a terrible idea for almost all people. I have no moral objection to it and I totally understand the motivation. Apple is completely failing to provide hardware that runs at a fraction of the performance you'd get from building a commodity $2500 AMD/Nvidia desktop even if you give Apple $7000 for a Pro model. Apple's platform especially sucks if you do anyth…

> Finally you hit a point where your system is so far behind that you give up My 2013 Macbook Pro retina will be at this point in the fall with two major upgrades uninstallable. I'd say this argument no longer holds because even the official hardware often can't be upgraded. I would be shocked if the next OSX version doesn't fail to upgrade like the one from last fall. That new filesystem breaks everything. Thankfull…

What updates were those? I'm still using a 2013 MBP too and no plans to upgrade. Given that 10.14 is still compatible with 2010 MBPs I think I have more than a few years left with it.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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If anyone remembers the long discussions at the start of 2000s in relation to music/video pirating, this is not "stealing", it's "intellectual property something something". The content companies had giant advertising campaigns trying to brand this as "theft" or "stealing". Of course, when they sued someone they used the proper term: "IP violation" I'm not arguing if it's acceptable or not, but it's not the same as t…

If only during the recent bike thefts in our apartment building, the thieves would have run away with perfect copies instead of originals. :-(

I wouldn't steal a car... but I sure would download one if I could.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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> You mean like, a PS/2 keyboard or what are you on about? I believe GP refers to the crapboards in the recent MacBook Pro lineup, which are amazingly bad. Also, IIRC Apple doesn't offer a real wired keyboard anymore.

Correct. That was my intent.

I'm typing this on my dasKeyboard plugged into my (well, work's) MBP. Sadly bought just a couple of months before the 6-core i9's became available.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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The simpler solution most people miss is to just buy a hackintosh-able laptop, like the Lenovo ThinkPad X220. Updates up until 10.13.6 worked seamlessly, only "hack" you had to do was change out the WiFi card.

That is a 7 year old laptop.

That's a 7 years old Thinkpad.

And by the way, if you need to build Android source code more often than once a month, you need AWS anyway.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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It's funny, but after four years on macOS, I returned to GNU/Linux about 16 months ago, and I have not looked back since. Okay, there are a few things I miss, but all in all, there was more I missed on macOS than I now miss on GNU/Linux. And I do not consider spending a weekend (or longer) to get my sound chip working fun any more. I am too old for that stuff. Maybe I just have a lucky hand picking hardware, but exce…

> But the old cliche that getting hardware to work on GNU/Linux is not true these days That's only true if you make a point of buying hardware you already know there's linux drivers for. I work with a few headless linux boxes, but not a GUI. Every year or two I try a distribution or two on whatever hardware I have, hit a problem, sigh after reading through numberless blog/SO/reddit posts contradicting each other on w…

I bought the new 2018 Dell XPS 15 the day they were released. I knew the Linux support wasn't perfect on day 1 but fully expect the rough edges (mostly around switching between integrated graphics and GPU, as you say) to be solved in a month or two.

I had the same experience with my 2015 Dell XPS 13... a few annoying quirks for the first month (mainly trackpad) which the combined efforts of Dell and the community quickly solved. Since then it has been rock solid. I used it for 3.5 years and only upgraded to the new XPS15 to get more RAM.

> So much depends on fiddling, experimenting, and reading.

How about not stressing about it now? My approach this time round is to not spend my own time fiddling with it. I'm going to wait patiently for others to figure it all out and get their fixes into upstream distribution. As my main problem is with GPU switching, I've got plenty of non-GPU projects to do in the meantime...

P.S. If you do want gpu switching on the XPS15, check out this repo:

https://github.com/matthieugras/Prime-Ubuntu-18.04

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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> Finally you hit a point where your system is so far behind that you give up My 2013 Macbook Pro retina will be at this point in the fall with two major upgrades uninstallable. I'd say this argument no longer holds because even the official hardware often can't be upgraded. I would be shocked if the next OSX version doesn't fail to upgrade like the one from last fall. That new filesystem breaks everything. Thankfull…

What updates were those? I'm still using a 2013 MBP too and no plans to upgrade. Given that 10.14 is still compatible with 2010 MBPs I think I have more than a few years left with it.

10.13 and the upcoming 10.14 and any future updates no doubt.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Gentoo? I don't think it is quite good comparision.

How about Arch Linux then? I love it and hate it at the same time. Rolling updates are amazing until they hose your system and you have to roll back updates.

Has that happened to you in the last couple of years? I've been using Arch for about that long on my desktop and the only issue I've ever had to resolve is outdated AUR packages with hard version deps.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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> But the old cliche that getting hardware to work on GNU/Linux is not true these days That's only true if you make a point of buying hardware you already know there's linux drivers for. I work with a few headless linux boxes, but not a GUI. Every year or two I try a distribution or two on whatever hardware I have, hit a problem, sigh after reading through numberless blog/SO/reddit posts contradicting each other on w…

I bought the new 2018 Dell XPS 15 the day they were released. I knew the Linux support wasn't perfect on day 1 but fully expect the rough edges (mostly around switching between integrated graphics and GPU, as you say) to be solved in a month or two. I had the same experience with my 2015 Dell XPS 13... a few annoying quirks for the first month (mainly trackpad) which the combined efforts of Dell and the community qui…

> How about not stressing about it now?

Well that's what I'm doing by using Windows. I don't like it, but it doesn't consume any of my time - even after not having used Windows for many years, I was productive on my new machine within an hour. Windows is a mess compared to OS X, but a fairly productive one for me.

I haven't had time to try a Linux install on this machine yet, but have set aside some SSD space for doing so at some point. I have to say though from past experience, I'm not optimistic that it will ever be more than an experiment.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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I can tell you from experience that building a Hackintosh is a terrible idea for almost all people. I have no moral objection to it and I totally understand the motivation. Apple is completely failing to provide hardware that runs at a fraction of the performance you'd get from building a commodity $2500 AMD/Nvidia desktop even if you give Apple $7000 for a Pro model. Apple's platform especially sucks if you do anyth…

Yeah, when I was younger and had lots of time but little money I totally would have built a hackintosh. Now? I have lots of money but little time so I'll happily pay for a system that requires nearly zero upkeep.
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