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Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by dspig »

rayiner wrote: post #11

> App Actions is a new way to raise the visibility of your app and drive engagement. Actions take advantage of machine learning to surface your app to the user at just the right time, based on your app's semantic intents and the user's context. Aside from the unnecessary jargon, this irks me how it portrays the user as some passive consumer. It really drives home how Google is, first and foremost, an advertising comp…

Oh, that thing where iOS shows a oarticular app icon on the dock that I don't want there, but then hides it again before I have to remove it. Gee, thanks for that Siri. I guess the Android version will also have no Off switch for the user.

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Post by kuschku »

Frondo wrote: post #156
dingo_bat wrote: post #92

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This is the first time I am considering an iphone as my next phone. But the lack of headphone jack makes it really hard.

I switched to an iphone a few months ago. Lack of a headphone jack bothered me for about a day. I got used to it very quickly, and now much much prefer the iphone to my old Android device.

I use my android phone frequently on the go, keep it in my purse connected to the powerbank to recharge, and have headphones plugged in to listen to music (e.g. when cycling the whole day, or when I’m in trains).

Without a separate headphone jack, that’s pretty inconvenient.

Especially as my headphones are all expensive 3.5mm jack Sennheiser headphones, and I need to use them with my phone, laptop and desktop.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by mikelward »

conradfr wrote: post #102

I was just hoping for them to retire those stupid round adaptive icons. They did not. Also it's not clear if the old style of switching "opened" apps will still be there? Because the new one with the full screen preview seems more flashy but less practical(think alt+tab vs win+tab on Windows).

I think the idea was good, it's just too bad so many apps (many by Google) went the lazy path of leaving the icon as-is and adding a white background layer.

Also note that they're only circular on Pixel.

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Post by joshuamorton »

ptx wrote: post #168
joshuamorton wrote: post #70

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The back button is now contextual, it appears in apps, but disappears when it can't do anything.

What about when an activity in app A opens an activity in app B? Can I still go back to app A's activity from app B's activity?

I just tested this (I think):

I opened a link from fb messenger in chrome. The back button is still there, and clicking it returned me to messenger. So yes I believe so.

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Post by blitmap »

robin_reala wrote: post #134
DennisAleynikov wrote: post #120

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Google speaks marketing speak, which isn't a strike against them. They worded it honestly, it's an opportunity for apps to be useful and have more activity for developers. Apple only focuses on it's vision of a power user on Apple having flexibility. It a nice vision but it's not the reality I see on iOS. On Android at least this was already a thing for years since notifications can be app slices. It's all dependent…

Some devs. My metrics are about helping the user achieve their goal, not fishing for engagement.

I'm with you. Google writes it like they're trying to exploit the user. Apple writes it like they're working to help the user. They're both working toward the same goal, but it definitely speaks to how they're designing Android (for the app ecosystem, not the user).

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Post by danmg »

triangleman wrote: post #104
mkirklions wrote: post #18

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Curious what others think of samsung hardware on HN. Ive had: >S5 phone whos charging port broke and had terrible battery life. But hey, when I bought the phone the screen was bright and beautiful... I feel like I was tricked >My SSD failed in a year >My grandpa's 1,000 dollar samsung TV he bought in 2018 has an irresponsibly slow smart TV. And I read some horror stories about samsung home appliances when I was looki…

Still using S5 as my daily driver, with LineageOS. No major complaints here, but yeah I will probably get a new battery soon.

Does GPS work reliably with the S5 and LineageOS?

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by paulie_a »

wvenable wrote: post #23
sigfubar wrote: post #14

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Samsung's modifications to the stock Android experience aren't "features"; these are desperate attempts to differentiate itself from other Android handset OEMs. The resulting need to reconcile two codebases leaves users as the losers: they wait forever for general advancements in the Android ecosystem.

The general consensus amount Samsung users from my experience is that that they do these features better than Google. Samsung's multi-window support was better than eventually came to Android. Samsung's handling of app badges was WAY better (message counts!) and that went away with Oreo's terrible implementation (a dot indicating un-dismissed notifications). My impression after upgrading to Oreo and getting more Goog…

I terminated my contract early because my s8 was a piece of crap. Full of lower quality Samsung apps.

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Post by scarface74 »

youseecomrade wrote: post #99
ythn wrote: post #66

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Ugh, I want to be optimistic, but I think this feature is going to suck and here's why: I use snapchat, but I actually hate the app. It's a bloated memory and battery hog in my opinion. Is Adaptive Battery going to think I love Snapchat and prioritize more system resources for it just because I use it? Cause I want the exact opposite to happen. I want Snapchat using 0% of my system resources except for the few times…

That's why I only use Android with ROMs like LineageOS where I can block apps from opening on startup and running in the background (you also get more granular permissions for free).

Why does Snapchat need to run at all when you’re not using it?

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Post by paulie_a »

kop316 wrote: post #50
mkirklions wrote: post #18

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Curious what others think of samsung hardware on HN. Ive had: >S5 phone whos charging port broke and had terrible battery life. But hey, when I bought the phone the screen was bright and beautiful... I feel like I was tricked >My SSD failed in a year >My grandpa's 1,000 dollar samsung TV he bought in 2018 has an irresponsibly slow smart TV. And I read some horror stories about samsung home appliances when I was looki…

> And I read some horror stories about samsung home appliances when I was looking to buy them last year. I can add to that. From a previous comment: "I actually just replaced a 3 year old Samsung Electric Dryer. The heat was no longer working, and I suspect it was the heating element. To access the heating element required me to: - Take off the control board - Take off the entire top of the dryer - Take out the door…

I had a Samsung fridge, it would constantly reboot... Samsung products just flat out suck in my experience. They insist on installing shitty software on everything.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by fixermark »

mrguyorama wrote: post #151
tensor wrote: post #131

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Personally, I think my mind has better things to do then mechanistic micromanaging of OS level resources. Some people will be upset that ML is obsoleting these sorts of repetitive tasks, but not most people.

making a feature available does not make it required

It does, however, require supporting it, and those are engineering resources that could be spent elsewhere.
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