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Re: Facebook’s patents show a commitment to collecting personal information

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Patents are strictly an offensive measure: They only allow you to sue/stop someone else from using them. They do NOT give you approval to do something. Some people mention "defensive" patents; They are only defensive in the sense that "the best defence is an offence" - that if someone attacks you, you have something to attack them back with. But that's not actually useful against entities that aren't practicing, such…

A patent can be invalidated by identifying prior art. If you're being sued by a patent holder, a prior patent that you own that covers the technique would be a very good demonstration of prior art. I think that would be classified as a defensive use of a patent.

> I think that would be classified as a defensive use of a patent.

That makes no sense at all:

Cost of publishing in a newspaper, or arxiv, or any other verifyable source: $0.

Cost of getting a patent: $5K-$100K spent on patent editors, patent lawyers, maintenance fees, re-editing after feedback, etc.

It's been a long, long, time since I heard about anyone spending less than $20K for a granted patent. Paying $20K for something that you can get (essentially) for free, prior art defense, makes no sense at all.

Patents are an offensive legal measure; the only way the work for defence is in the "offence is the best defence" sense.

Re: Facebook’s patents show a commitment to collecting personal information

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A patent on fast Fourier transform would essentially do nothing, as no one appears to be selling the algorithm outright.

A patent on FFT would stop anyone from using it in their products. A patent does not solely mean you can’t sell the patented thing, it means you are prohibited from commercially using the patented thing in any way.

Seems like it would be possible to do something like: produce a freely available device that you provide some kind of supportive or value-added service for.

Re: Facebook’s patents show a commitment to collecting personal information

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Yeah software is this funny new world where the cost of manufacture and distribution is orders of magnitude less than the cost of invention. Patents were intended to solve the opposite problem. Software patents are just inexcusable

I'm against software patents but patents were not intended "to solve the opposite problem" (expensive manufacture & distribution and cheap invention). They were intended to solve the problem of technological progress being hindered by trade secrets that never come into the public domain. If you couldn't protect your recipe for making a life saving drug, no one else could make it even if you decided not to anymore or…

I think it's easy to argue that there is some value in encouraging the publication of said inventions after the patent expiration date, but your argument is incorrect. The problem was when the Doc invents the flux capacitor in his workshop, he needs to go to GeneralIntelectric Corp, pitch his invention, and disclose his scematics for a beta production run . Without patents, the Doc doesn't have a comprehensive and cheap legal protection from the megacorp just saying no and stealing his thing. Sure, if the Doc had more money, he could invest in a legal team to get him this protection, but it would probably involve publicly filing details of his invention anyway, thus emulating a shittier version of patents.
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