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Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Post by zenovision » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 3:32 PM UTC

admg wrote: post #163

ansible wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Intel is in serious trouble right now. The whole semiconductor industry is in trouble right now, though few seem to feel the weight of the issue. We are looking at just a couple process nodes at best before we reach the end of the road for silicon lithography. Sure, there will be further tweaks on existing techniques which will squeeze out small improvements in power, performance and density. But long gone are the…

I too have a i7-3770 and it runs fantastic. I've only just realised that it is actually 6 years old, theres just not the incentive to upgrade that there once was.

It's even faster than the newest I7 8650U

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Post by PurpleBoxDragon » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 3:33 PM UTC

tfha wrote: post #65

YorkshireSeason wrote: post #54

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So obviously relationships are bad when there's a power dynamic, In what sense is this obvious? And according to which substantial notion of power?

Yeah I never understood this either. Does that mean a bachelor US president can't date a US citizen? Yes, power can be abused. But anyone with a knife at home can abuse that knife by stabbing someone. That doesn't make it wrong to own a knife.

>Yeah I never understood this either. Does that mean a bachelor US president can't date a US citizen?

Is the difference in power between a US president and the given citizen larger than the difference in power between a 18 and 15 year old? If so, and if relationships should be banned based on power differences, then it seems the only logical conclusion is such a relationship should be banned.

Then again, our laws and social morals are rarely so consistent.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Post by adventured » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 3:38 PM UTC

bitL wrote: post #167

ckastner wrote: post #22

Relationships among employees are very hard to keep concealed -- especially so when you're in a very exposed position, as a CEO is. At some point, somebody is going to notice something. If this is the case, then I'm pretty sure that this knowledge had reached the board long before. Rumors spread fast, after all. That leaves me to wonder as to the timing of this action. Krzanich received a lot of flak over the past mo…

Of course they were sitting on it. However, I don't understand why didn't they go the usual nice route - Brian, how can we quickly get rid of you when we need to? Is $10M enough to cover any inconveniences? Enjoy your retirement and see you at the golf course! Game of Thrones Season 80x86?

That may have occurred (in your scenario) because he wasn't interested in giving up his position quietly, so they went public to force the issue.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Post by daxorid » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 3:40 PM UTC

tw04 wrote: post #165

ckastner wrote: post #22

Relationships among employees are very hard to keep concealed -- especially so when you're in a very exposed position, as a CEO is. At some point, somebody is going to notice something. If this is the case, then I'm pretty sure that this knowledge had reached the board long before. Rumors spread fast, after all. That leaves me to wonder as to the timing of this action. Krzanich received a lot of flak over the past mo…

Like the insider trading thing that somehow never was investigated?

You don't get investigated or railroaded for insider trading if you do what the NSA/CIA/FBI tells you to do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Nacchio

Covert access to IME may have saved Krzanich's bacon.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Post by lainga » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 3:43 PM UTC

InTheArena wrote: post #93

Intel is in serious trouble right now.They accidentally gaffed recently and stated that their goal was "to keep AMD from getting more then 10-20% of the server market" while they deal with a whole bunch of engineering and fab problems with their current generation of chips. They are also looking down the barrel of Apple abandoning Intel, and for the first time in two decades, unleashing a true X86 competitor to the m…

Hold on, now. You can't assume Brian identifies as a man.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Post by coryfklein » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 3:43 PM UTC

ansible wrote: post #138

InTheArena wrote: post #93

Intel is in serious trouble right now.They accidentally gaffed recently and stated that their goal was "to keep AMD from getting more then 10-20% of the server market" while they deal with a whole bunch of engineering and fab problems with their current generation of chips. They are also looking down the barrel of Apple abandoning Intel, and for the first time in two decades, unleashing a true X86 competitor to the m…

> Intel is in serious trouble right now. The whole semiconductor industry is in trouble right now, though few seem to feel the weight of the issue. We are looking at just a couple process nodes at best before we reach the end of the road for silicon lithography. Sure, there will be further tweaks on existing techniques which will squeeze out small improvements in power, performance and density. But long gone are the…

Intel i7-3770 Passmark Score (~6yrs old, was ~$320): 9300 [1]

AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Passmark Score (That's a 65% improvement in benchmark performance. So not the "doubling" trend I was used to growing up, but not insignificant.

[1] https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3770+...

[2] https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+2700&id...

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Post by detuur » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 3:44 PM UTC

drb91 wrote: post #169

krotton wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given knowledge that the CEO is a male, assuming the relationship is with a female is simply based on statistics.

Why assume at all?

Because it's a natural thing to do. It's very tiresome to watch yourself all day to make sure you're not making any assumptions. We hear "CEO has relationship with employee" and our mind immediately goes to work fabricating a mental image of that. And if there's something our mind is really good at, it's filling in the gaps, i.e. assumptions. So when we continue the conversation, we use that mental image and without even thinking use the word "she" when referring to the employee. Is this insensitive? No, it's just sticking to patterns, which is the modus operandi of our mind.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Post by kmfrk » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 3:44 PM UTC

dokein wrote: post #19

So obviously relationships are bad when there's a power dynamic, and between different management levels is a common subset of this. However it feels like many people are spending more and more time at work, and it also seems cruel to say: "you cannot get to know anyone romantically during 50-75% of your waking day."

I don't get the rule either, but few things are worse for company morale than for employees to see the rules apply to everyone but the top brass, stupid rules or not.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Post by mathattack » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 3:45 PM UTC

It was stupid of him to do. The executive suite of large companies is very Game of Thrones. Why leave a knife around for someone to stab you in the back? Of course people knew. And then they were “shocked!!” to formally find out.

This is a serious thing. What if you knew about the relationship, and the other person was promoted over you?

I worked at a place where 2 colleagues had an open/secret relationship. One was senior but there wasn’t a reporting relationship so everyone looked the other way. When the senior exec weighed in on the junior’s promotion, he lost all credibility in the organization.

If the CEO does this, they lose the entire organization.

I guess he can always go to Oracle.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Post by y4mi » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 3:45 PM UTC

drb91 wrote: post #169

krotton wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given knowledge that the CEO is a male, assuming the relationship is with a female is simply based on statistics.

Why assume at all?

Because it's cumbersome to write comments that don't assume anything but still convey something.

single sentences suddenly become whole paragraphs and just for the tiny off-chance of him being homosexual.