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Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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For many, this won't even begin to offset the increase in income and property taxes from this notoriously high-tax state. Individual or business, you're likely to pay more. http://money.cnn.com/gallery/smallbusiness/2012/10/15/state-... >>The income tax has a top rate of 8.95%. This ranks as the sixth-highest in the U.S., although it only applies to taxpayers making over $413,350 per year. Meanwhile, total state and…

Gee that seems so high.

I do wonder why they only mentioned the tax rates for people making ~400k a year.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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For many, this won't even begin to offset the increase in income and property taxes from this notoriously high-tax state. Individual or business, you're likely to pay more. http://money.cnn.com/gallery/smallbusiness/2012/10/15/state-... >>The income tax has a top rate of 8.95%. This ranks as the sixth-highest in the U.S., although it only applies to taxpayers making over $413,350 per year. Meanwhile, total state and…

Vermont legislature is clueless if it thinks this or anything else other than a major overhaul of tax system and modernization of the infrastructure would bring people to Vermont. I spent a few weeks recently bumming around the state. 1) Contrary to what Vermonters may think, real estate in Vermont is expensive. Not NYC or SF expensive but none the less very expensive unless it is in a totally need to be burned and r…

> Vermont loses to New York

To be fair, there's areas in NY with their own city or county property taxes on top of it. Westchester has, last I looked, the highest property taxes in the country.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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This sounds more like a publicity stunt than an actual attempt at solving the problem. Having said that: I've been to Vermont in the Fall, and it. is. stunning.

Having grown up in the Northwest and lived on the West Coast my whole life, I think my expectations of how beautiful the Northeast would be was a bit skewed by media/popular culture. I really enjoyed my first trip to to Boston/Portland/Acadia, but TBH, the more rural areas felt a lot more like a Disneyland version of nature curated for tourists from the "big city". It didn't live up to the hype, which I think is targ…

The Hudson Valley, in NY, is beautiful. If I could live anywhere, that would be where.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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> notoriously high-tax state Some societies think that it is wise to spend on some things such as education (see https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2015/06/02/the-... ). Others think that lowering taxes at whatever cost is better. The former fits with my thinking, which is why I like it here.

And yet the neighboring state of New Hampshire, which has some of the lowest taxes in the country (0% sales tax, 0% state income tax), beats Vermont handily in SAT scores. https://blog.prepscholar.com/average-sat-and-act-scores-by-s... What does Vermont have to show for its higher spending? Why do you see higher spending as an automatically good thing if it doesn't have any evidence of having a beneficial effect?

NH education spending isn't very low.

Both are highly ranked for k-12. The difference in scores you are touting is 8 points.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Not (as much, see below) anymore. That was specifically removed by the recent tax overhaul The more cynical view is that this was done on purpose to harm blue states that tend to have higher state income taxes

> The more cynical view is that this was done on purpose to harm blue states that tend to have higher state income taxes this could very well be true, but it does seem unfair in the first place to be able to deduct state income tax. it's great that some states have decided to increase their income taxes to offer more services to their citizens, but why should tax payers in other states have to subsidize them without…

One practical concern is that it's a lot easier for a state to implement something like single-payer health care if they can pay for it through state taxes that are exempt from federal taxes.

Otherwise, they're competing with employer-provided health insurance, which is already tax-exempt. That gives employer-provided insurance a huge artificial advantage and makes single-payer a lot more expensive in comparison.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Lots of hills and low population density. I bet it is hard to get good internet in Vermont. Universal access to broadband would matter more than anything else.

Vermontel is rolling out gigabit fiber to all of vermont. I already have it in my seriously rural house in southern vt. It's faster and cheaper than any residential internet I have had in NYC.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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post #88

This sounds more like a publicity stunt than an actual attempt at solving the problem. Having said that: I've been to Vermont in the Fall, and it. is. stunning.

Having grown up in the Northwest and lived on the West Coast my whole life, I think my expectations of how beautiful the Northeast would be was a bit skewed by media/popular culture. I really enjoyed my first trip to to Boston/Portland/Acadia, but TBH, the more rural areas felt a lot more like a Disneyland version of nature curated for tourists from the "big city". It didn't live up to the hype, which I think is targ…

Burlington is a lot like Portland it's a bit more dense population wise, but smaller overall.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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As we are talking about living and working in Vermont on a technology focused news aggregation site, I would call that a success. Part of the reasoning given in the article is to shore up the "rapidly sinking tax base" of the state and it reminds me that we don't have a good example of governments that both grow and shrink based on the economic activity of the state. That is something that could really help areas rem…

US governments aren't very good at this - because they don't bank the good times. How many US governments have "Sovereign wealth funds"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_wealth_fund

12 states, mostly low tax states. Texas has 2, both from the 19th Century.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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US governments aren't very good at this - because they don't bank the good times. How many US governments have "Sovereign wealth funds"?

I can guarantee you that states that did would be hammered by anti-tax people thinking that they were overtaxed.

Shocking then that 12 do then, and they're mostly low-tax states

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_wealth_fund

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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>"With skiing in the east an industry in rough shape since it doesn't snow anymore, and agriculture in a slow death spiral,..." Can you elaborate on the slow death spiral of agriculture part? Are you talking about the effects of globalization factory farms or something else specific to Vermont/Northesat?

Sure. Dairy is dying for various reasons, and supplemental sources of income like Maple sugaring are impacted by climate change. Vegetable businesses are tough as well as plots are small and you cannot compete with massive agribusinesses in California and South America.

Interesting I had not heard this about the dairy industry. Indeed it seems they even had a congressional bailout of sorts recently as well. Thanks.
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