As horrible as these crimes were, they're negligible in the context of widespread civil asset forfeiture abuse.
In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know about others, I want my police force judged by their worst interactions rather than the majority of their interactions. I want the standards set high enough that all those bad things practically never happen rather than some small regular percentage of ongoing interactions.
You want to know what the problem is? No sane person would want to risk their life on a daily basis, wrestle people into their cars against their will on a daily basis, and be subject to the scrutiny you describe in your post, the hatred that is described in other posts, all for a policeman's salary. Literally no sane person would take that deal. Are you about to sign up to be a cop? Hell fucking no.
I think the OP was arguing the police should spend less time wrestling people into their cars against their will.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Don't judge all the the US by its corrupt big cities. > I recognize nothing in this story in my town's local police (we're about 65,000 population, and the cops are quite relaxed and civil as a default). I was stopped without explanation in Andover, KS (population In a neighboring city (Wichita), police responding to a 911 call that I placed after being robbed at gunpoint played good-cop-bad-cop with me. They suspe…
Police need to deal with every walk of life. I just served on a jury where the police were made to sound like a bunch of idiots by the defense because a person who appeared to be a witness wasn’t interrogated like you were.
Aggressively interrogate victims of crime, and you will find nobody wants to report crime or even cooperate with the police any more. That's far more damaging than missing the opportunity to prosecute a single drugs case, but it isn't measurable.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
The situation sounds much more like The Shield. The Wire was focused on institutional problems. It was more interested in the tragedy that incentives in the police force and city government were such that barely an iota of thought was ever given as to how to actually fix the problems of the city. Instead most work was expended in public relations efforts, cooking the books and ass covering. There was one storyline in…
They think about stealing but realize that they might get caught due to the wiretap. In a later season when they're taking part in a raid with a dead wiretap and no risk of being caught after the fact, they do take the money. The entire 5th season has most of the department cooking the books to get their overtime pay.
> They think about stealing but realize that they might get caught due to the wiretap.
If I remember correctly they still and accidentally lose some of that money in the back of their car. Lt. Daniels notices and tells them to bring it it back. They find it, but it looks bad regardless of their honest intentions. ("Do you think he believed us?" - "Would you?")
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know about others, I want my police force judged by their worst interactions rather than the majority of their interactions. I want the standards set high enough that all those bad things practically never happen rather than some small regular percentage of ongoing interactions.
You want to know what the problem is? No sane person would want to risk their life on a daily basis, wrestle people into their cars against their will on a daily basis, and be subject to the scrutiny you describe in your post, the hatred that is described in other posts, all for a policeman's salary. Literally no sane person would take that deal. Are you about to sign up to be a cop? Hell fucking no.
Aren't cops usually highly paid?
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
You want to know what the problem is? No sane person would want to risk their life on a daily basis, wrestle people into their cars against their will on a daily basis, and be subject to the scrutiny you describe in your post, the hatred that is described in other posts, all for a policeman's salary. Literally no sane person would take that deal. Are you about to sign up to be a cop? Hell fucking no.
I think the OP was arguing the police should spend less time wrestling people into their cars against their will.
That's their job.
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#177Why is there not more transparency? It makes zero sense. What is going to stop something like this occuring again? Officers going to jail?
The Blatimore police page on transparency: https://www.baltimorepolice.org/transparency/overview
They have stated that they are committed to transparency.
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#178So I guess "The Wire" was basically a documentary?
In light of those current issues I wish David Simon would revisit Baltimore and "The Wire". However I guess he's busy with "The Deuce" these days.
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know about others, I want my police force judged by their worst interactions rather than the majority of their interactions. I want the standards set high enough that all those bad things practically never happen rather than some small regular percentage of ongoing interactions.
You want to know what the problem is? No sane person would want to risk their life on a daily basis, wrestle people into their cars against their will on a daily basis, and be subject to the scrutiny you describe in your post, the hatred that is described in other posts, all for a policeman's salary. Literally no sane person would take that deal. Are you about to sign up to be a cop? Hell fucking no.
Except that their job is not nearly as dangerous as you make it out to be. The exaggeration of danger and overblown fear are part of problem.
Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat
#180So I guess "The Wire" was basically a documentary?
The situation sounds much more like The Shield. The Wire was focused on institutional problems. It was more interested in the tragedy that incentives in the police force and city government were such that barely an iota of thought was ever given as to how to actually fix the problems of the city. Instead most work was expended in public relations efforts, cooking the books and ass covering. There was one storyline in…
The Wire was more sympathetic to the police, probably because of the Ed Burns influence.