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Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by Tepix »

kingosticks wrote: post #80

My XPS 13 9350 is undoubtedly the best computer I've ever owned. I don't seem to have this coil whine thing or I just don't notice it. The 8GB of RAM has served me well and I'd never want to sacrifice any of the battery life for increasing that - it's an ultrabook after all. I've always run Ubuntu and while I did have problems with WiFi and resuming when it first came out, they are both rock solid now. I have never t…

I also have the XPS 9350 and love it. Noticed a little coil whine at first but it went away after the first BIOS upgrade.

I noticed that the 9370 went from 3200x1800 to 3840x2160. Not sure if that's something worth doing at 13.3"

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by deckard1 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #162
torgard wrote: post #98

Max 8gb for regular display... I mean, who uses touch screens for development? I can't really imagine a scenario where it would be helpful for me. Maybe when doing work in Illustrator and Photoshop, but I usually use a different machine for that anyhow, because of Adobe's lack of Linux support. I don't want to pay for something I won't use. I am otherwise actively looking for a laptop. System76 does not have European…

> I mean, who uses touch screens for development? Web developers who want to test using real touch input events rather than the quirky emulation found in a few browsers. If you're developing for touch, in particular things like drag & drop, you want a real device. Even if you have an iPad or smartphone test device too, it is nice to have that ability on your main development machine rather than jumping around.

eh? You're not running Android on iOS on the thing. It's still emulation (or "virtualized" environment), and it's still largely going to be crap.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by bluedino »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #115
andor wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really happy about USB-C. Since I got a new Macbook I only carry a single power adapter when traveling, plus an adapter dongle for legacy devices (Headphones, Kindle, Shaver, ...). Same for use in the office: a single cable connects you to power, an external display, Ethernet, etc. It's true that most external devices are still USB-A, but that's not Dell's or Apple's problem. It's a chicken-and-egg situation and…

> USB-C is the superior connector: longer lasting, reversible, works for charging, alternate modes, etc. ...2.4GHz radio interference leading to wifi dropout on many devices when USBC peripherals are plugged in... Ok, it's not the connector's fault, but still. USB 3 has not been a problem-free advancement.

>> 2.4GHz radio interference leading to wifi dropout on many devices

2013+ Macbook Pros had that problem simply using external monitors in some cases

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by bluedino »

emilsedgh wrote: post #60
FBISurveillance wrote: post #27

IMO, it does not make sense to buy any of those new models: whether it's Dell, HP, or else--before we see models with 32Gb of RAM. It's been told here over and over since 2016 when first Touchbar MacBook got released. It's 2018 and all of us, including manufacturers, are locked with 16GB of RAM and those upgrades look like a joke. Within last month I noticed myötähäpeä when someone asks me for laptop advice. Hopefull…

Do people actually need 32G ram though or is it just being obsessed with higher specs? I have an X1 Carbon with 16G. I rarely use 4G memory with a full KDE (+ KMail with hundreds of thousands of emails stored locally), a few atom based apps (Slack, Spotify) and a browser that is always open. My browser usually has only a few tabs open and I understand that people have browsers with hundreds of windows and full fledge…

I'm using 12GB in Windows 7, and I'm not even doing any development work (VM's). Firefox, Chrome, Outlook, a couple spreadsheets and text editors, Evernote, Winamp, a couple Putty sessions, IBM terminal...

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by dabernathy89 »

deckard1 wrote: post #172
Someone1234 wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean, who uses touch screens for development? Web developers who want to test using real touch input events rather than the quirky emulation found in a few browsers. If you're developing for touch, in particular things like drag & drop, you want a real device. Even if you have an iPad or smartphone test device too, it is nice to have that ability on your main development machine rather than jumping around.

eh? You're not running Android on iOS on the thing. It's still emulation (or "virtualized" environment), and it's still largely going to be crap.

For mobile websites it would trigger the same browser events, right? Don't think they're referring to native apps.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by chrisper »

torgard wrote: post #98

Max 8gb for regular display... I mean, who uses touch screens for development? I can't really imagine a scenario where it would be helpful for me. Maybe when doing work in Illustrator and Photoshop, but I usually use a different machine for that anyhow, because of Adobe's lack of Linux support. I don't want to pay for something I won't use. I am otherwise actively looking for a laptop. System76 does not have European…

But only in the US. For some reason there is a 16GB European version.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by contingencies »

kibwen wrote: post #168

The hardware is lovely but the available configurations make me sad. For compiling the projects I work on, I need an i7 and 16 GB of memory. But this configuration only comes with the touchscreen, which is not only useless but destroys battery life, has a far inferior viewing angle, and adds an obscene amount to the cost. Amusingly, the config that I want is available, but not to me, because I'm not in Europe. I woul…

Re: touch. I just bought an XPS15 with 16GB for 1900AUD. It has touch, which I don't use. The viewing angle is wonderful, basically 360 degrees with no degredation and in this respect is no different to my 2013 Macbook Pro. AFAIK from reading other people's setups (see external resources at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Dell_XPS_15_9560 ) you can disable touch to save power.

Re: cost. Macbook Pro in similar power range is like 3500AUD. So I'm not complaining.

Re: grunt. I also compile stuff sometimes (Gentoo user!) but generally don't need so much RAM. If you really need fast high power compilation consider a decent CI setup with on-demand cloud instances instead... means you don't need to pay over the top for occasionally used local grunt. Also works for others on the same project and enforces clean operations patterns (continuous deployment / effective build documentation).

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by ndesaulniers »

torgard wrote: post #98

Max 8gb for regular display... I mean, who uses touch screens for development? I can't really imagine a scenario where it would be helpful for me. Maybe when doing work in Illustrator and Photoshop, but I usually use a different machine for that anyhow, because of Adobe's lack of Linux support. I don't want to pay for something I won't use. I am otherwise actively looking for a laptop. System76 does not have European…

There's no simple/easy way to disable the touchscreen in Linux distro's, too.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

Anyone know what WiFi cards they're using this time? The original ones used Broadcom, which sucked on Linux. The DE versions briefly switched to Intel cards, which were great, and have built-in support in the Linux kernel. Then they switched to some off-brand wifi cards called Killer for the later lines.
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