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Re: AIM will be discontinued today

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Post by nasredin »

kodt wrote: post #74
nerdponx wrote: post #19

Unfortunately you are not able to save or export your Buddy List. Your data associated with AIM will be deleted after December 15, 2017. Yes, you can manually save images and files to your computer until the morning of December 15, 2017. Whatever you thought of AIM, it's stuff like this that makes you realize just how important software freedom is. Insane that there is just no way at all , without outright hacking th…

I, for one, am happy to see all my old AIM conversations deleted and lost forever.

Roy Moore?

Sorry, couldn't resist ;)

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

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Post by yosamino »

c22 wrote: post #118
nerdponx wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same thought. Now that it's dead, maybe releasing/leaking the source would be legally defensible as fair use in the name of historical preservation.

The source is pointless. You can build a much better chat system on modern technology in a weekend. The lost value is in their centralized servers with thousands of existing accounts. I'd always thought services like AIM would be replaced by more decentralized systems, but instead we have even more segmented walled garden chat apps where you don't even get to use your own client.

I will say this: XMPP is far from perfect. But I recently came back to it from a five year absence or so, and I must say, it's gotten really good. I set up a server with relatively little difficulty, and since in my circle, it's common to have multiple messengers on the phone anyhow, asking someone: hey, I want to use this other one, wasn't a big hassle.

Conversations for Android is really good, and on iDevice ChatSecure works very well. Much better than what I expected. With filesharing and everthing. And then there's a bunch more that also work, but not of them at the same level of Quality.

Marketshare is super-low of course, but I like that it's possible to use an open protocol.

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

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Post by zeppelin101 »

oblio wrote: post #125
Cknight70 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here! I'm really sad they never added anymore chat protocols, and now most of the ones I used are obsolete or don't work. I stopped when all my friends switched from Skype (which I used Trillian for) to Telegram, but I missed how compact Trillian was.

I get the impression that Pidgin, Trillian and the other one I can't really remember just gave up at some point. I'm using Pidgin, mostly out of nostalgia, but the default configuration basically can't connect to any mainstream messenger these days (Facebook, WhatsApp, Hangouts, Skype or Viber). Plus the UI is so dated, especially regarding emojis. Before anyone asks, it's in C and I'm nowhere competent (or intereste…

I use Pidgin for Microsoft Lync chat, in lieu of the official client. It is so much more responsive and lightweight.

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

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Post by stevenj »

kodt wrote: post #74
nerdponx wrote: post #19

Unfortunately you are not able to save or export your Buddy List. Your data associated with AIM will be deleted after December 15, 2017. Yes, you can manually save images and files to your computer until the morning of December 15, 2017. Whatever you thought of AIM, it's stuff like this that makes you realize just how important software freedom is. Insane that there is just no way at all , without outright hacking th…

I, for one, am happy to see all my old AIM conversations deleted and lost forever.

Same with Zuck.

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

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Post by weoiurweoiu23 »

klez wrote: post #79
kodt wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, for one, am happy to see all my old AIM conversations deleted and lost forever.

Ok, but that should be your choice, not AOL's.

It was the users choice to abide by the user agreement?

I don't get how any reasonable framework can exist to say such detailed efforts at curating my identity must be pushed upon others?

You want a lifelong log of your discourse? Write it in a medium you control.

This is some hyper-active nationalist zeitgeist? You are not owed a say in any and every facet of life that touches you incidentally. It's never been the case "on the ground" in America.

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

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Post by ouid »

jimmaswell wrote: post #151
ouid wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that algorithm is building a model of me, then yes, it's clearly an invasion of my privacy. Google itself is the entity that I do not want to have access to a model of me.

I don't agree that an algorithm building a model of you based on information you've provided to the website is an invasion of privacy.

Can you characterize what you consider an invasion of your privacy? Can you bound what you would find reasonable for someone else to characterize as an invasion of privacy?

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

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Post by DarronWyke »

jedberg wrote: post #126

Goodbye. :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Z2CklSxM0 Since everyone is sharing their AIM memories: When I was in college (1995-1998), AIM was the #1 way to flirt with people. Today the kids worry about whether they got a like or not. Back then, you'd sit and stare at your buddy list waiting for that person you liked to come online so you could say something witty, and then stew with worry if they didn't respond bu…

>Back then, you'd sit and stare at your buddy list waiting for that person you liked to come online so you could say something witty, and then stew with worry if they didn't respond but remained online.

Or you'd get a friend/another account to IM them to see if they'd really blocked you or not.

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