Don't Talk to the Police (2012)

Post by TaylorAlexander » Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 8:01 PM UTC

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I grew up in a very privileged white world, with an attitude that I could always talk to the police because they were never interested in me. I felt that there would be unlikely to be an outcome where I got in any real trouble even if I had been breaking the law in some childish but “not actually bad” kind of way. Doing some dumb stunt or smoking a little weed - “nothing serious”. A friend from a different place help…

> I grew up in a very privileged white world, with an attitude that I could always talk to the police because they were never interested in me. I felt that there would be unlikely to be an outcome where I got in any real trouble even if I had been breaking the law in some childish but “not actually bad” kind of way. Doing some dumb stunt or smoking a little weed - “nothing serious”. What you describe as the "very pri…

Thank you for this comment. I 100% agree and will try to take this to heart. I do believe friendly fair police should be the goal. I expect it will take a very different approach to policing (laws and power structures need to change), but always anchoring the goal of fair and respectful interaction is the right idea.

Post by cortic » Tue, Dec 12, 2017, 7:10 AM UTC

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“You do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.” https://www.gov.uk/arrested-your-rights I imagine there is a sizable amount of injustice in the UK due to not having a 4th amendment like rights.

If you listen to the video, the professor says that nothing you say to the US police can be used to defend you later. From your quote we see that this is not the case in the UK. Something you say can later be used in your defense, so clearly if you choose to say nothing -- you have less that could be used in your defense. > I imagine there is a sizable amount of injustice in the UK due to not having a 4th amendment l…

No, we have hearsay laws similar to the US. We can't compel an officer to testify on our behalf about something we said to them in questioning. its just in the UK, if you talk to the police, and forget something that is important you don't get to use it later, or its not as useful later.

This has lead to a lot of unsound convictions of people who were intoxicated at the time of arrest; They tell some abridged version of their story to police, leaving half the important details out, leaving them with half a case to take to court. In Scotland they have started Requiring solicitors to be present at interviews of suspects (of some crimes) because of this, making statements inadmissible unless a solicitor was present.

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