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Re: Chuck Moore, Extreme Programmer

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Post by throwaway7645 »

eggy wrote: post #169
throwaway7645 wrote: post #136

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The author of Kdb is Arthur Whitney. He is another extreme programmer who has had a huge influence on fintech and made boat loads of cash I would presume.

He also helped in the development of J with Roger Hui and Ken Iverson, the creator of APL, by writing a one page interpreter for J over an afternoon or two. I am always drawn to prototyping and writing solutions in J. I am not a web developer, but for mathematics and statistics, it is amazing. I've always wondered how similar and different K and J are on a deep level, but I have always stuck with J.

Norman Thompson has a J book I'm reading and it is mind melting.

Re: Chuck Moore, Extreme Programmer

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Post by progman »

minsight wrote: post #160
progman wrote: post #131

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> : right# negate 32 + . ; This is an example of "ugly" Forth code. It's ok here to make the code as short as possible. In reality I would write (educational) Forth code this way. The texts in parentheses are comments. ( compute Hypotenuse sqrt[a²+b²] ) : hypo ( a b ) swap ( b a ) dup * ( b a² ) swap ( a² b ) dup * ( a² b² ) + ( a²+b² ) sqrt ( result ) ; ( Application: 1.2 3.4 hypo )

Isn't the first swap unneccesary?

Of course. You learn quickly ;-)

Re: Chuck Moore, Extreme Programmer

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throwaway7645 wrote: post #89
feelin_googley wrote: post #16

The "Do Not Speculate!" idea reminds me of the practice of delivering "the kitchen sink" when only a small program that does one thing would suffice. It reminds me of when, e.g., a 1990s-2000s Windows user needed a small program that does one thing, and in order to get it, the download from Microsoft was an installer with hundreds of megabytes of unneeded binary files. It was not possible to download only the single…

This is what I like about Rebol & Red...pity Rebol didn't catch on more. The full Rebol download is a single executable (no real install) and can build GUIs, and so much more in a very small amount of code.

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Re: Chuck Moore, Extreme Programmer

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Post by RingwormOne »

lobf wrote: post #170
RingwormOne wrote: post #164

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And I'm happy to see someone from Iowa posting here. If someone from a different minority group posted here I would be happy as well. There are many ways to be diverse.

You have kind of an absurd definition of diversity.

You only care about diversity involving people from socioeconomic or racial groups associated with poverty or historical oppression.

That ignores so many other kinds of diversity in the world.

Your definition is far too exclusive and narrow minded.

Re: Chuck Moore, Extreme Programmer

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Post by lobf »

RingwormOne wrote: post #174
lobf wrote: post #170

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You have kind of an absurd definition of diversity.

You only care about diversity involving people from socioeconomic or racial groups associated with poverty or historical oppression. That ignores so many other kinds of diversity in the world. Your definition is far too exclusive and narrow minded.

What types of diversity can you have amongst racially, socially, and economically homogenous people? What are you talking about? What is your grand, open-minded idea that ignores what actual diversity is?

Re: Chuck Moore, Extreme Programmer

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Post by [deleted] »

RingwormOne wrote: post #174
lobf wrote: post #170

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You have kind of an absurd definition of diversity.

You only care about diversity involving people from socioeconomic or racial groups associated with poverty or historical oppression. That ignores so many other kinds of diversity in the world. Your definition is far too exclusive and narrow minded.

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Re: Chuck Moore, Extreme Programmer

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Post by RingwormOne »

lobf wrote: post #175
RingwormOne wrote: post #174

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You only care about diversity involving people from socioeconomic or racial groups associated with poverty or historical oppression. That ignores so many other kinds of diversity in the world. Your definition is far too exclusive and narrow minded.

What types of diversity can you have amongst racially, socially, and economically homogenous people? What are you talking about? What is your grand, open-minded idea that ignores what actual diversity is?

Again, it seems you're assuming that just because someone is "white" and not rich/poor they're the same as other "white", not rich/poor people. That's offensive and naive.

Re: Chuck Moore, Extreme Programmer

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Post by RingwormOne »

lobf wrote: post #175
RingwormOne wrote: post #174

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You only care about diversity involving people from socioeconomic or racial groups associated with poverty or historical oppression. That ignores so many other kinds of diversity in the world. Your definition is far too exclusive and narrow minded.

What types of diversity can you have amongst racially, socially, and economically homogenous people? What are you talking about? What is your grand, open-minded idea that ignores what actual diversity is?

I'm glad you asked! Diversity in musical tastes, religious and political ideology and affiliation, food preference (because new cuisine is always great to discover), experiences as a result of living in a primarily rural vs urban setting, occupational diversity, etc etc. I could go on. You care about diversity in things that don't really matter. When I walk into a room full of people I don't really care about their income, or the color of their skin. I care about them as people, their interests, their unique life stories. You should stop obsessing so much about race and economic status. This is a free to use internet forum. No one is barred from joining based on their race or wealth.

Re: Chuck Moore, Extreme Programmer

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Post by lobf »

lobf wrote: post #175
RingwormOne wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You only care about diversity involving people from socioeconomic or racial groups associated with poverty or historical oppression. That ignores so many other kinds of diversity in the world. Your definition is far too exclusive and narrow minded.

What types of diversity can you have amongst racially, socially, and economically homogenous people? What are you talking about? What is your grand, open-minded idea that ignores what actual diversity is?

I'm very sorry for offending you by not recognizing that "diversity in musical taste" provides for greater diversity than racial, social, and economic status. Silly me, I've been thinking about diversity all wrong. You're right, HN is very diverse- we have middle class white guys who like Metallica, and others who like show tunes. We have middle class white guys from suburban Iowa, and others from suburban Massachusetts. This is a very diverse website, I was very confused before.

Re: Chuck Moore, Extreme Programmer

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Post by [deleted] »

lobf wrote: post #175
RingwormOne wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You only care about diversity involving people from socioeconomic or racial groups associated with poverty or historical oppression. That ignores so many other kinds of diversity in the world. Your definition is far too exclusive and narrow minded.

What types of diversity can you have amongst racially, socially, and economically homogenous people? What are you talking about? What is your grand, open-minded idea that ignores what actual diversity is?

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