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Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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It almost certainly influenced Gnome, so it might not all be wasted.

But what is the reason they still don't have proper window list / dock? Do many people use third party solutions like dock to Taskbar etc that clearly mimic Ubuntu.

ego

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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post #38

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I have bought a new desktop this spring. The first thing I did was configuring wake on lan (in France, we have 7 days to cancel a purchase). The second one was to configure ssh and gnome to be able to administer it remotely (line DisallowTCP=false in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf). I use Linux at work since 1999 and I have used a local display less than 1% of the time. An application that does not work remotely does not exis…

I'm lost, why is it relevant that "in France, we have 7 days to cancel a purchase"?

Yup, I also wondered if he was craving ethernet to find the refund website?

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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> ifupdown has been deprecated in favor of netplan and is no longer present on new installs [...] > Given that ifupdown is no longer installed by default, its commands will not be present: ifup and ifdown are thus unavailable, replaced by ip link set $device up and ip link set $device down. Sad to see this go; I always use ifup, ifdown and ifconfig. Yes, they're old and clunky tools but in a way they are the staple o…

This is just such a shambles. Great idea number 1: let's put all the functionality into one command line tool, and we'call it ip for ... "internet protocol"? Why is this ip tool managing my ethernet network card? Great idea number 2: for this powerful swiss army knife, only a special syntax will do where we repeat the name of an argument before the argument value. To make sure no one can use it's functionality with l…

It stands for iproute not "internet protocol". :p

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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No issues with Gnome 3.26 HiDPI on Wayland using nvidia driver. I was running alpha version of 17.10 on my Dell XPS with minimal issues

Which generation XPS is that?

XPS 9560

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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post #133
post #64

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You've had both yes and no answers. The answer is no. Mir 0.28 landed just in time for 17.10, as a sibling linked. This version includes basic Wayland support. A read over Mir/Spec [0] shows that though they don't want Wayland to be at the core of Mir, they want to be able to talk and integrate with it at a higher level. It should be noted that Mir is only installed by default on Ubuntu Touch, and probably won't be i…

"It should be noted that Mir is only installed by default on Ubuntu Touch, and probably won't be integrated into the desktop by default until Unity8 is ready." Huh? As far as I can tell Unity8 is never going to be ready. The exact words from Mark Shuttleworth were "we will end our investment in Unity8, the phone and convergence shell". Clearly there are still people working on Mir, it's had ~200 commits in the past m…

Unity8 is practically dead right now. The funding withdrawal ensured it.

But, some of Mir's utility carried over into Canonical's IOT stuff.

No one I've spoken seems to know why Mir still has an active team after the big changes.

There's some speculation of MATE adopting when Mir hits 1.0, but it really is speculative.

I don't know why, but Mir marches on. I doubt we'll see it on desktop anytime soon.

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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I use my Linux desktop through VNC roughly 50% of the time I'm using it (though, honestly, most of the time I work locally on my laptop). It's convenient to have access to the desktop session I left running the night before remotely if I want to. I mostly use it to sync files/code I forgot to upload when I quit the last time, or to start a download on Steam or something like that. I'm sure Wayland will eventually sup…

Which VNC server program do you use? Is it free (as in beer) and does it have a GUI for enabling/disabling and managing the configuration? Several months ago I was looking for one like that but didn’t find anything that was maintained in the recent times. Coming from OS X, where turning on VNC/screen sharing is a simple process in System Preferences, I found it surprising that it was difficult to do that on (Ubuntu)…

rdesktop is pretty easy to drop-in and use, with a nice GUI. They focus on Windows remote desktop compatibility instead of VNC, which can make it easier for some.

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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32-bit installer images are no longer provided for Ubuntu Desktop. The Ubuntu Desktop now uses GNOME instead of Unity. On supported systems, Wayland is now the default display server. The older display server is still available: just choose Ubuntu on Xorg from the cog on the log in screen. GDM has replaced LightDM as the default display manager. The login screen now uses virtual terminal 1 instead of virtual terminal…

> Python 2 is no longer installed by default. Python 3 has been updated to 3.6. And so it begins. I think/hope that the next RHEL will do the same thing, at which point the final nail will be in Py2's coffin.

I can't wait for people to stop expecting that putting #!/usr/bin/env python at the top of their scripts will lead to python2 being used.

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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I love, love, love python. I am probably irrational in my affection for the language. But it's python3 that I know and will work in python2 if needed but I think python2 needs to die a quick death.

I have been using python2 for veey long time and a lot of software that I've written is made with it and is providing consistingly value to me. I have no idea why these people want to kill the technology that has brought so much value and joy to my life. If you like python3, great for you. But why do you want to kill python2 if other people are happy with it?

It's end-of-life (pretty much anyway). Time to port your software if it's used by anyone more than yourself or open source it. It needs to die like dos and 16bit compatibility in windows needs to die.

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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I use Ubuntu for programming and it is great. Still use Windows for HTPC though because I gave up on trying to get Ubuntu to sync video playback correctly after banging my head against the wall for a while.

It is my understanding that difficult tasks should be attempted before banging one's head against the wall.

Directions unlear; head stuck in a computer

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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This is just such a shambles. Great idea number 1: let's put all the functionality into one command line tool, and we'call it ip for ... "internet protocol"? Why is this ip tool managing my ethernet network card? Great idea number 2: for this powerful swiss army knife, only a special syntax will do where we repeat the name of an argument before the argument value. To make sure no one can use it's functionality with l…

It stands for iproute not "internet protocol". :p

How did the "ip" get into "iproute"?
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