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You're the only one in this thread that's incredulous about a major publication posting a researched article. Clearly we are all out to get you.
pdx is certainly not the only one. Many of us who consider the entirety of Western Media to be a wholly controlled narrative fabrication oligopoly simply keep our mouths shut about it.
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And you signed up about a year and a half ago - just the right time to try and influence the US election. Perhaps you work for a western intelligence agency. Or perhaps you are easily manipulated by the media. I've been called Russian on various forums several times. I am actually British and have never even been to Russia. My crime was to point out the flimsy nature of so many of the allegations regarding Russian in…
I'm just saying I based my judgement on the content before, but having seen others dig through other posters' comment history to find pro-Russia patterns gives me pause now. And even if it is still just about content, it's a lot easier to spread BS than it is to refute it. > This idea that the Russian government spends its time/money trying to influence US politics by posting to Hacker News of all places should fail…
Actually no, that's not pretty clear.
For one, where's the evidence that spamming Twitter can affect anything politically at all, in any country? The entire belief that elections are decided by robo-Twitter accounts revolves around the idea that a lifetime of experiences, beliefs, news consumption and discussions with friends/family goes out the window the moment someone opens Twitter and reads 140 characters.
I don't think this is a real phenomenon. I don't believe in it because it's such an obvious and minor riff on a more general theme that is always so pervasive in politics; the idea that people who disagree with you politically aren't "really" disagreeing, they're just brainwashed and not thinking for themselves.
If you look at European politics, before the current wave of Russia hysteria the EU and its fans liked to explain Euroscepticism as something driven by tabloid newspapers. To quote Martin Schulz (head of the EU Parliament), "UK tabloids have performed mass brainwashing" which "force fed their readers with intolerance". In other words, stupid people read simplistic messages and automatically start to agree with them - that's why they don't vote for things the educated elites like.
That's an almost identical rationale to the idea that people didn't vote the right way in the USA because there was "mass brainwashing" that "force fed them intolerance", except now it's Twitter instead of newspapers and the evil Russians instead of tabloid journalists. But the premise is the same: bad people are brainwashing the ignorant masses.
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I think you'll find Russia is doing a bit world wide. They've just finished up the Zapad war games again, denounced Georgia having war games with the US. Getting back into Uzbekistan now that Karimov is gone. Russian companies are now supplying internet and phone service to North Koreans. Crimea is still going on with continuing threats to Ukranian sovereignty. Russian gov has just committed more funds to Kalningrad…
Russians have alledgedly been involved with the Catalonian independence movement Lol, here we go ahead. And where's the evidence of that? I mean damn, those darn Ruskies! Trump, Brexit and Catalonia too! Is there anything happening in western politics that isn't their fault? Wait, I thought the reason Russia allegedly did something to support Leave in the Brexit referendum was because they wanted countries to leave t…
Their manipulation with regard to Brexit, Catalonia, and multiple and ideologically-opposed sides in the 2016 US Presidential campaign, among others, all fit this pattern.
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"A lawyer who happened to be Russian" is not the same thing as "the Russians", the latter implying some sort of official Russian government conspiracy - presumably at vast scale, to affect something as large as the US election. I too would like to see this verifiable evidence. So far all evidence presented of so-called Russian "interference" isn't even remotely credible.
> I too would like to see this verifiable evidence. He went to the meeting because Russians said they have dirt on Hilary and admitted it. Also, There was at least one Russian troll farm targeting voters. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/facebook-says-it-sol... Russia also has a history of influencing elections in other countries.
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Russians have alledgedly been involved with the Catalonian independence movement Lol, here we go ahead. And where's the evidence of that? I mean damn, those darn Ruskies! Trump, Brexit and Catalonia too! Is there anything happening in western politics that isn't their fault? Wait, I thought the reason Russia allegedly did something to support Leave in the Brexit referendum was because they wanted countries to leave t…
The unifying motive in Russian propaganda efforts of the last several years is to destabilize other centers of power by exacerbating divisions between and within countries Russia considers less than friendly, particularly in NATO. Their manipulation with regard to Brexit, Catalonia, and multiple and ideologically-opposed sides in the 2016 US Presidential campaign, among others, all fit this pattern.
Your post is kind of reminds me of this:
http://media.timeout.com/blogimages/wp-content/uploads/2012/...
A vast shadowy conspiracy which is connected to absolutely everything, even when there are obvious long term political trends that made all these outcomes predictable. Nope, not crazy at all!
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That's actually a recent development: http://fortune.com/2017/07/02/kaspersky-source-code-inspecti...
Wouldn't the source on such a system change daily? How do you keep up with updates?
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Maybe that's the first part of the evil plan? Make people see Russians everywhere. I try to look at content and don't care much who the poster might be. Because everyone has motive even if it's just boredom or attention.
When the number one tactic involves paying people to troll and influence on social media it's being willfully ignorant to look at every post in a vacuum and to not look for patterns.
Or we shouldn't be.
We shouldn't be threatened by foreign posters claiming this or that. If legitimate problems are brought up they should be acknowledged in a free society. If lies are brought up they should be ignored or addressed. But this OMG Russian Posters Everywherez is disturbing. It signals fear and weakness. It's more disturbing than the actual existence of Russian posters. Let them post. Listen to what they say if you care. It should not be a real threat if we are right. If we are not right we should get right.
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Yes, they are banned of course as per regulations but that is hardly going to stop the hardened phone addicts
Well other soldiers should stop them if they see it since the phone addict is putting everyone at risk by shrieking for cell towers
