Google relaunches Glass for businesses • Hacker News Board

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 6:42 PM UTC

kbenson wrote: post #169

frahs wrote: post #138

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You're totally overcomplicating this -- all they need is literally a music stand that they keep with their binders -- when you take a binder out, bring the stand with you to the platform and mount the binder on the stand on the platform, so that you don't have to go back and forth.

Even if I immediately accepted that a music stand would be sufficient for what might be a 20 lb technical manual, when placed on a platform that jostles and moves (as is visible in the video), that completely ignores the second half of what I noted. I don't think it's overcomplicating an issue to look at a situation that appears to be sub-optimal and search for reasons why what appear to be simple solutions might not…

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Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by pavel_lishin » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 6:43 PM UTC

lwlml wrote: post #162

aresant wrote: post #9

This is so !@%!@ cool. Check out the A/B test of a technician with / without the software referenced in the article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gXuZp25f0 Then here's a video that gives a sense of the software's interface: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5HOHNECW20 Very workflow oriented with nice communication and lookup features. This is the kind of small optimization stuff that is going to be revolutionary…

Am I the only person who immediately thought: WHY ISN'T YOUR BOOK NEXT TO YOU INSTEAD OF ON THE CART ONE LEVEL BENEATH THE SCAFFOLD? Was this seriously the A/B test?

"Watch how much faster a technician wearing Glass is, than one who isn't wearing Glass and is also missing an arm and is hand-cuffed to a hyena."

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by troncheadle » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 6:44 PM UTC

losvedir wrote: post #35

aresant wrote: post #9

This is so !@%!@ cool. Check out the A/B test of a technician with / without the software referenced in the article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gXuZp25f0 Then here's a video that gives a sense of the software's interface: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5HOHNECW20 Very workflow oriented with nice communication and lookup features. This is the kind of small optimization stuff that is going to be revolutionary…

Wait, isn't that the same person in both videos? In that case, this is just a marketing spot demonstrating how it "could" work, not an "A/B test".

Given what I know about the aviation industry, it's extremely unlikely that this was the first and second time he has done this task. We might be looking at the millionth time and million-and-one time. Memory is probably not a factor.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by valuearb » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 6:45 PM UTC

pavel_lishin wrote: post #172

lwlml wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I the only person who immediately thought: WHY ISN'T YOUR BOOK NEXT TO YOU INSTEAD OF ON THE CART ONE LEVEL BENEATH THE SCAFFOLD? Was this seriously the A/B test?

"Watch how much faster a technician wearing Glass is, than one who isn't wearing Glass and is also missing an arm and is hand-cuffed to a hyena."

and who lost his arm because Glass obscured his view of that bandsaw blade.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by pavel_lishin » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 6:46 PM UTC

bitdeveloper wrote: post #120

ape4 wrote: post #24

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Just disrobe while I record you with my cyborg glasses. Now, please describe your embarrassing medical problem. (However, it seems like a great idea for other situations.)

I wonder if there would be room for a public key / dual encryption for the video produced that both the doctor and the patient would need to sign off on to view the video, or something like that, to add some kind of viewing trail/authentication/authorization. I mean, who's to say any given doctor's office doesn't have a hidden camera/microphone somewhere anyway.

> I mean, who's to say any given doctor's office doesn't have a hidden camera/microphone somewhere anyway.

If you're having paranoid delusions, visiting a doctor's office may be a good start, despite the small possibility of hidden cameras and microphones.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by valuearb » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 6:46 PM UTC

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #31

theptip wrote: post #12

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Is there a good reason they don't put that large manual up on a rack by the actual work area?

I've built a few assembly lines for automotive parts. These machines do one job, and probably only handle a couple part numbers: They might press a gear onto a motor shaft at one station, press on the plastic shroud at another, and add the grease and fasteners at the third station. These do have the operating instructions (Graphical, not English) laminated and displayed prominently above the machine. Someone with zer…

So he needs an iPad? And it wouldn't obscure some of his field of vision.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by function_seven » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 6:50 PM UTC

notatoad wrote: post #78

xxs wrote: post #49

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Leave that 'piece o'plastic' stuff, the extra room can be utilized as extra battery.

that'll increase the weight though.

I think it’s better to have balanced weight, even if it means more. While it might be annoying to have more weight on the bridge of your nose and over your ears, it’s even more annoying to have an off-center moment of force.

It’s like carrying one 12-pack of beer rather than two.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by valuearb » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 6:52 PM UTC

enjo wrote: post #59

payne92 wrote: post #27

It's easy to armchair quarterback this stuff after the fact, but this is where Glass should have started. The price point, social stigma/issues, and use cases all screamed "business applications!". Consumer tech may be where the glamour and scale are, but it's not always the best market entry point.

Wasn't that the point tho? Basically Google went: "We have this cool thing, but we're not sure were it's most applicable. Lets just put it out in the world and see what people do with it!" Which is what they did. The data they gained from that experiment no doubt led to this.

The king of successful consumer products, Apple, doesn't ship out public prototypes to developers to figure out what it can do. it's a terrible strategy for launching a consumer product and one reason Google sucks at consumer products.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by chrnic27 » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 6:54 PM UTC

gnaritas wrote: post #131

arbitrage wrote: post #29

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I would be totally cool with being recorded. I think its beyond time we get past the ridiculous false modesty that seems to be considered a virtue, but with no real benefit.

The desire for privacy is not "false modesty"; given the sentence you just uttered, I'm not convinced you even know what false modesty even means. People have a hard enough time even talking to doctors about embarrassing or sensitive issues, put a camera in the room and they simply won't, privacy is a need for most human beings, it's not false, it's not fake or done out of a desire to appear a particular way, it's a…

> privacy is a need for most human beings

Who the hell said that?

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by acdha » Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 6:54 PM UTC

erikpukinskis wrote: post #101

objclxt wrote: post #86

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That's what they did after it was clear it was done as a piece of consumer hardware. It's easy to forget how hard Google pushed Glass to consumers. They parachuted people out of a helicopter onto the roof of the Moscone Center wearing them. They invested a vast amount of money building out massive floating barges to use as showrooms, which they quietly mothballed and sold. They allowed Robert Scoble to take a picture…

Promoting it to a room full of developers is not a "big push to consumers". Robert Scoble is not really a consumer tech reporter either. He's more like a futurist. Most of the things he likes to talk about are things you can't buy. Maybe because you got marketed to you are thinking it was consumer marketing, but consider that you were being marketed to as a developer not a consumer.

If you followed the news at the time there was a ton of coverage in mainstream media with bold claims about how society was going to be transformed and it was way outside of just developer circles. For example, the New Yorker is not typically considered a developer site and yet they have a bunch of articles like http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/glass-before-google and http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/05/o-k-glass.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/technology/biggest-eyewea...