I don't get the negativity in the comments. Maru might be early and probably won't be the one, but this is definitely the future.
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Maru OS – A complete desktop experience on a smartphone
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Re: Maru OS – A complete desktop experience on a smartphone
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
Motorola Atrix, Ubuntu Phone, Windows Phone 10 has Continuum. It's been tried before.
Yes, and it took around 20 years to go from the patent for the first underpinnings of applications for phones other than communication in the 1970s to Simon Personal Communicator in the early 90s, and then another 10-15 years for the first smart phones to emerge. If people gave up because it "had been tried before", we wouldn't have any of the technology we had (in fact, we would still be planting crops with wooden s…
Nobody is denouncing it because it isn't new, they're just saying that they shouldn't claim it's a new kind of experience when it doesn't really seem like a new kind of experience.
Re: Maru OS – A complete desktop experience on a smartphone
#173I'm wondering how secure it is.. According to https://github.com/maruos/maruos/wiki/Tips , they start sshd up by default, listening on the local network, with the default user maru and password maru. That seems like a bit of a red flag and makes me wonder if it is the tip of the iceberg.
Looking at the Github [0], it looks like a fairly alpha product targeted at technical people and has one contributor. I think giving the project some slack at this point seems reasonable. I guess if there is major concern about this, one could submit a PR? [0] https://github.com/maruos/maruos
The website is super polished and doesn't mention anything about being alpha quality. It would be easy to install this on your phone without any idea you were making yourself vulnerable.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm concerned about driver support in Debian. It's Android devices after all...
In the worst case you might have to run a kernel built for Android instead of the default debian kernel (e.g. lifted off the android OS for that type of device), depending on how it was packaged up. Hopefully those aren't built with certain useful features turned off. For devices that support a vanilla android, I imagine the driver issue is already worked out and there would be no problem getting them to work in a ke…
Like the halium project
Re: Maru OS – A complete desktop experience on a smartphone
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, don't install it on anything with data you care about. This isn't exactly a hardened product.
+1! The way I see it, this is a "toy" (for the time being). The "2013 devices" makes me thing that this is a "toy" for people like "us" that have a Nexus rotting away somewhere and "it would be cool to fool around on your 30-inch screen and nothing more! It would be better if they would up-front say "this is not secure", "this is a demo", "this is a toy", "this is not the OS you're looking for". Imaginary CEO-CTO dia…
> The "2013 devices" makes me thing that this is a "toy" for people like "us" that have a Nexus rotting away somewhere
I'm writing this on a 2013 Nexus, thank you very much! A year ago it stopped booting and I tried searching for a newer, comparable tablet to replace it: no such device exists. I ordered a replacement main board and couldn't be happier. Until someone makes a new 7-inch tablet with a full HD display, it will continue to not rot in my hands for a few more years.
Re: Maru OS – A complete desktop experience on a smartphone
#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
That seems like a bit of a red flag A basic and egregious security blunder is more than a bit of a red flag. and makes me wonder if it is the tip of the iceberg. If you already see that the tip sticking out has a mine on it, the tons of iceberg only give you the difference in the degree of egregiously bad.
I mean, don't install it on anything with data you care about. This isn't exactly a hardened product.
Indeed, back when I had a Nexus 5 laying around collecting dust, I gave it a whirl. It was interesting but certainly not ready for prime time. The phone side of the OS was about as bare as could be, and buggy too. The PC side was slow and just as bare.
As a gadget enthusiast, I loved tinkering with it. But it is simply not practical for daily use (yet). I think it could end up being a nice FOSS alternative to Microsoft's Continuum project, especially if the developer can get it working on a newer device.
Re: Maru OS – A complete desktop experience on a smartphone
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
That seems like a bit of a red flag A basic and egregious security blunder is more than a bit of a red flag. and makes me wonder if it is the tip of the iceberg. If you already see that the tip sticking out has a mine on it, the tons of iceberg only give you the difference in the degree of egregiously bad.
I mean, don't install it on anything with data you care about. This isn't exactly a hardened product.
From what I've seen the site doesn't give any indication that it's this insecure. The default assumption should be that an OS is secure, and an OS should be secure by default, with tons of big warnings that something isn't secure.
This isn't just "unhardened", this is a lack of basic security, and after Mirai, nobody should be doing this shit.
Re: Maru OS – A complete desktop experience on a smartphone
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So, it would be cool to have Debian as the base OS and Android running in a container. When in Phone mode, Android is front and center and when in Desktop mode, the base Debian host is. Could then still access the Android container. If the UIs supported a seamless mode, that would be icing.
I would spend a lot of money on a device that did that well.
I hope this is where Google is headed with Fuschia OS. I wouldn't want to hack together a seamless transition from phone to desktop environment on Android. With a whole new platform written from the ground up to support it makes sense to me.
Re: Maru OS – A complete desktop experience on a smartphone
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, it would be cool to have Debian as the base OS and Android running in a container. When in Phone mode, Android is front and center and when in Desktop mode, the base Debian host is. Could then still access the Android container. If the UIs supported a seamless mode, that would be icing.
I'm concerned about driver support in Debian. It's Android devices after all...
libhybris reuses hardware drivers from Android, as used by sailfish, ubuntu touch, plasma mobile et alia.
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#180Support for Pixel anytime?