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Re: Google is transforming public education with low-cost laptops and free apps

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Post by sofaofthedamned » Sun, May 14, 2017, 5:54 PM UTC

peder541 wrote: post #160

johnsmith21006 wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Classroom is NOT free for schools.

Do you have a source for this? Their support documentation says otherwise. "Classroom is a free web service for schools, non-profits, and anyone with a personal Google Account." https://support.google.com/edu/classroom/answer/6020279 "Classroom is free for all users." https://support.google.com/edu/classroom/answer/6025224

Classroom is free, I think the device management MDM software costs $30 per device for a perpetual license:

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1388674-managing-chro...

Re: Google is transforming public education with low-cost laptops and free apps

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Post by chicob » Mon, May 15, 2017, 12:29 AM UTC

thomastjeffery wrote: post #161

chicob wrote: post #94

I teach high school kids as a part time. I have around 15 students, and afaik all of them use Android. Most of them are 13-14 years old. They have absolutely no understanding of how advertising-based businesses work, a poor knowledge of privacy settings or the workings of data deletion, nor do they have any remotely adult conception of why they should worry about those things. They share everything. Sometimes they ev…

It's still better than maintaining windows, or even OS X. Ideally they would use a nice maintainable linux distro, but no one is doing that right now, AFAIK.

A simple Linux distribution though out for kids, yes.

Re: Google is transforming public education with low-cost laptops and free apps

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Post by chicob » Mon, May 15, 2017, 12:34 AM UTC

walterbell wrote: post #156

chicob wrote: post #94

I teach high school kids as a part time. I have around 15 students, and afaik all of them use Android. Most of them are 13-14 years old. They have absolutely no understanding of how advertising-based businesses work, a poor knowledge of privacy settings or the workings of data deletion, nor do they have any remotely adult conception of why they should worry about those things. They share everything. Sometimes they ev…

Zuboff's surveillance capitalism is instructive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_capitalism video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0QwPHinDdOc

Thank you for the links, and yes it is. In particular, Zuboff's third law: "Every digital application that can be used for surveillance and control will be used for surveillance and control."

Re: Google is transforming public education with low-cost laptops and free apps

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Post by wolfram74 » Mon, May 15, 2017, 4:01 AM UTC

taneq wrote: post #59

wolfram74 wrote: post #37

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Also, the most literal answer "solve quadratic equations" is kind of the most meaningless, what a physicist does with it is different than what a graphic designer does with it. The teacher might be saying they don't know in that context and would rather not lie to individual students that it's super important for them in particular way.

That's like saying you don't know what you'd "use a lever" for.

And I imagine after answering that question a few hundred times it might take on a level of kafkaesque absurdity.