This will give them plenty of data for their ad network, which is a nice strategic move. They always claimed to be privacy conscious so this is perhaps a nicer way to get interest and behavior information.
Mozilla Acquires Pocket
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Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#172Mozilla is growing, experimenting more, and can acquire startups. Mozilla doesn't have the resources to continue with Thunderbird. I am increasingly baffled by their decisions and how they relate to the strategic plans [0] they've been producing for a while. Despite the worthy words in their plan they seem to have no sense of direction. That saddens me. That said I'm happier having Pocket as an open source part of Mo…
The people that complain about mozilla stopping development on thunderbird seem to be the same people that complain about things like firefox moving to WebExtensions, and Firefox changing their UI, and Firefox integrating Pocket. I don't understand why people are disappointed that Mozilla has stopped actively developing thunderbird - it means it's not going to change . There is an email client that you like, as is, a…
Does the lack of changes include no security updates? Then yes, one should be annoyed and Thunderbird usage should be discontinued.
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#173Mozilla is growing, experimenting more, and can acquire startups. Mozilla doesn't have the resources to continue with Thunderbird. I am increasingly baffled by their decisions and how they relate to the strategic plans [0] they've been producing for a while. Despite the worthy words in their plan they seem to have no sense of direction. That saddens me. That said I'm happier having Pocket as an open source part of Mo…
Thunderbird doesn't make money. Pocket makes money. That Mozilla is a Corp owned by a not-for-profit isn't the real thing anymore (ie not what people may believe, not that they have any obligation beside following the rule of law) - it just frees the Corp from having to report to random share holders - instead, the Corp and the Org self-select a Board of directors that they report to. At the end of the day, it's othe…
Mozilla needs products that are relevant in the marketplace, to exist. Revenue is part but not all of this.
I don't think Mozilla can make meaningful impact in a world where it doesn't make products that internet users want to use. It would be a largely toothless advocacy organization at that point.
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thunderbird doesn't make money. Pocket makes money. That Mozilla is a Corp owned by a not-for-profit isn't the real thing anymore (ie not what people may believe, not that they have any obligation beside following the rule of law) - it just frees the Corp from having to report to random share holders - instead, the Corp and the Org self-select a Board of directors that they report to. At the end of the day, it's othe…
You can see that just by looking at their job postings. The experimental ads team was hiring and then stopped and then the team was absorbed into other teams. Now they have more postings for project managers. They're basically introducing more hierarchy and traditional corp. stuff from the sounds of it.
Product managers and hierarchical reporting structures are nothing new to Mozilla, quite the contrary.
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#175I never used pocket, but I use instapaper.
I wonder if Pocket will be completely free now or if mozilla counts on this to fund more of its efforts. Beyond that. I also wonder if this means a read it later service will finally properly support RSS. Forgive me I don't know the features of pocket but as i understand it is does not correct?
I been using the built in firefox RSS feeder for years. with pocket integration it'd be a lot more useful.
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
In case you didn't know, you can remove it from the toolbar via "Customize", or completely disable it by toggling `extensions.pocket.enabled` in `about:config`. That being said, I started using it extensively after being a big fan of Instapaper. The browser integration (especially the easy tagging) has been really helpful in keeping my tab count down.
I use a simple bookmarklet for Pocket. This consumes zero resources and works just fine. https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8980504
That's how Instapaper did it back when I used it (may have a full-fledged add-on now, but I don't know for sure).
The only drawback, for me, was the added bulk of the Bookmarks bar. I like to slim it down, so having the single button has been great. (Also, being able to add the tags, but maybe the bookmarklet is capable of that?)
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#177Mozilla is growing, experimenting more, and can acquire startups. Mozilla doesn't have the resources to continue with Thunderbird. I am increasingly baffled by their decisions and how they relate to the strategic plans [0] they've been producing for a while. Despite the worthy words in their plan they seem to have no sense of direction. That saddens me. That said I'm happier having Pocket as an open source part of Mo…
I could be wrong here, but the thunderbird thing is basically that it was way too much work for little gain -- the way Thunderbird is designed was that it was a kind-of-fork of Firefox, and too many resources were being wasted just keeping the "fork" up to date from changes to internal Firefox APIs. I'm also not sure of this, but that vision thing you link to is focused on the goals of the Foundation proper (excludin…
Aside from technical issues, native mail clients are shrinking in use over time, not growing.
It does not seem like the right place to invest to continue having relevance in the marketplace.
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#178I will never again donate to the Mozilla Foundation.
Why's that? This acquisition was carried out by the self-funding Mozilla Corporation. The Mozilla Foundation is a separate entity.
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
I use a simple bookmarklet for Pocket. This consumes zero resources and works just fine. https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8980504
That's how Instapaper did it back when I used it (may have a full-fledged add-on now, but I don't know for sure). The only drawback, for me, was the added bulk of the Bookmarks bar. I like to slim it down, so having the single button has been great. (Also, being able to add the tags, but maybe the bookmarklet is capable of that?)
I remove the bookmark's name so only the Pocket icon shows. It's very slim, but you do need the bookmark bar for that. I suppose it would work from the bookmarks menu too.
When you click the bookmarklet a little dropdown banner shows and you can add tags from there.
Re: Mozilla Acquires Pocket
#180https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/02/27/mozilla-acquires-po... explanation for this move is very laconic IMO. What are benefits? We already know majority of user were against even basic integration with pocket.