The Problem with AMP

Post by aplummer » Tue, Jan 17, 2017, 8:48 AM UTC

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #170

matthewmacleod wrote: post #158

I don't like AMP, and I very glad there is now some push back against Google's implementation of it. Fast pages are great, but I suppose I'm missing the background on why it was necessary to do this, when anybody who can implement AMP could presumably have implemented "lightweight non bloated pages" without using it. It's bad enough that I've had to switch to using Bing on mobile, despite the worse results, and I'm a…

Push back? Where? It seems there is no alternative for those who care about their rank and clicks.

Post by wheelerwj » Tue, Jan 17, 2017, 8:56 AM UTC

tobltobs wrote: post #168

akras14 wrote: post #133

I wrote a similar(although not as concise) article about 3 month ago: https://www.alexkras.com/google-may-be-stealing-your-mobile-... After which I was invited to meet Google AMP team and to express my concerns, you can read my Q&A here: https://www.alexkras.com/i-had-lunch-with-google-amp-team/ TLDR; A lot of concerns are getting addressed 1. Minor, but the bar at the top is now scrollable on all devices, including…

What I don't get is why a company like Google is moving with glacier style speed. When they will finally implement those long missing features their products already have failed the acceptance test of the users.

Post by joelthelion » Tue, Jan 17, 2017, 9:05 AM UTC

wheelerwj wrote: post #172

greenspot wrote: post #162

Google is abusing its powers. The search rank is our currency and Google has pushed AMP sites to the top for some while. So, everybody is now building weird AMP layers for their sites. We went from a free to a proprietary mobile web in just a few weeks. And we can't do anything. It feels like the times when the Internet Explorer tried to rule except that more people were complaining. The open solution to a faster mob…

> Google is abusing its powers. They are a business, doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing. It's up to us to find a way to kill google and take back our internet. Edit, i love the downvotes for this. Google is legally required to act in their shareholders best interests. You all should understand fiduciary duty. They are building long term value for a massive (and growing) customer segment at the expense o…

Post by wheelerwj » Tue, Jan 17, 2017, 9:14 AM UTC

joelthelion wrote: post #175

wheelerwj wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google is abusing its powers. They are a business, doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing. It's up to us to find a way to kill google and take back our internet. Edit, i love the downvotes for this. Google is legally required to act in their shareholders best interests. You all should understand fiduciary duty. They are building long term value for a massive (and growing) customer segment at the expense o…

> They are a business, doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing. Violating anti-trust laws?

Post by smartbit » Tue, Jan 17, 2017, 9:21 AM UTC

mysterypie wrote: post #96

ejcx wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SFGate is a bad example because they don't set margins. Most other sites are a lot better. Here's a much better example. AMP - https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2... No-AMP - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/1...

Sure, the AMP page looks much cleaner because it lacks the ads, side bars, and other junk that the Washington Post puts on their normal page. But they want that junk. If everyone on laptops and desktops starts using your trick, the Washington Post will adapt and find a way to put the same junk on the AMP page. Then we're back to square one. As far as I can tell, your method of viewing a nice clean page depends on you…