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Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by shadowmint »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #104
joemaller1 wrote: post #62

I'm a big fan of Trello but I dread using Atlassian products. I do not have a good feeling about this. Hopefully Atlassian can learn from what makes Trello so wonderful instead of JIRA-ifying it into oblivion.

Funny how much opinions can differ. I've used them both professionally and I think Trello scales poorly above 5-10 people while Jira is the least-worst option for running a project at any team size.

To be fair, the two-pizza team stuff is generally speaking quite a good guideline.

If you have more than 5-10 people using each of your task boards, the problems may be more than any productivity tools can really fix.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by matthewmacleod »

wattt wrote: post #154
chrisan wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trello is a JIRA competitor based on providing simplicity to task boards. Why would they JIRA-ify it? They would lose their audience who sought a JIRA alternative in the first place. From their blog post on the subject https://blogs.atlassian.com/2017/01/atlassian-plus-trello/ they seem to acknowledge this I happen to use, and like, both products. JIRA at work (where I want a lot of the features) and Trello for perso…

They will JIRA-fy it or kill it. I use JIRA and pay for it, it is hell on earth for teams of 2-5. We looked into switching to trello to reduce overhead but... It cost more for less features. So we stayed with JIRA. They will kill trello so everyone is stuck with JIRA. Someone please make a trello clone with reasonable pricing, now!

Trello was ridiculously cheap. I think you're totally out of luck if you expect anybody to make a clone that's cheaper.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by solatic »

taytus wrote: post #85

I like Trello, I use it often. $450M... for a todo list. Yes, I use it. Yes, I think is useful. Yes, I think this valuation is absolutely crazy.

There's a halo effect here. If Atlassian can drive powerful integrations with its current products then it can increase the value proposition for those products among Trello customers, driving sales for its own products. Not that there was anything to prevent them from making those integrations before, but now they can go to Trello customers directly and ask them, "hey did you know you can create a Confluence meeting notes document, create a bunch of action items during the meeting, turn them all into Trello cards with the click of a button, and see the real time status of all of them straight from the Confluence document?"

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by notatoad »

alberth wrote: post #149

This is a great acquistion for both parties. 1. Trello was smart in only taking $10M in VC funding [1]. This allows for a 40x return for it's investors. If Trello were like many other startups, they probably would have taken too much VC money and got themselves in a situation where the VC wouldn't sell unless it was $2B+. 2. Atlassian now has a product that is loved by many developers and business people alike. It wi…

>It will easily be interegrated into their existing stack and it complements their products very well.

Will it? i use both Bitbucket and Jira at work, and i'm constantly finding myself wondering how two products from the same org can work so poorly together. They use their products to market their other products, but as far as actually integrating things into a seamless experience it doesn't seem like that's atlassian's strength.

In many ways that will be a good thing though, trello will likely remain trello instead of becoming something else to fit atlassian's ecosystem.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by weavie »

christophilus wrote: post #49
spacehacker wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think most of it is about the brand; about buying a name which is already imprinted in millions of minds. The technology alone is probably only worth 1-5% (?) of the price.

Agreed. Maybe the 2. ??? was "How the heck did they go from unknown to a recognizable brand?"

I think it is more something like :

1. Write really popular blog.

2. Create Stack overflow and make it the goto for developers.

3. Create todo list

etc..

The brand was there before they even started the todo list. All it took was a blog post "We are going to create a todo list now" and it was pretty much set.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by adriand »

joemaller1 wrote: post #62

I'm a big fan of Trello but I dread using Atlassian products. I do not have a good feeling about this. Hopefully Atlassian can learn from what makes Trello so wonderful instead of JIRA-ifying it into oblivion.

JIRA is awful, although admittedly we were a small team when we were using it for a project, which apparently makes it not the best fit. But I really like the other Atlassian products we use. HipChat works well, it's not quite as polished as Slack, but it does the job and it's been a lot more stable the last few months than it once was. Bitbucket is excellent. We moved from Github to Bitbucket a few years ago and never looked back.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by matthewmacleod »

ryanSrich wrote: post #98
rb808 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It makes sense mainly because Trello is a competitor to Atlassian and its best to kill it now before it takes too much market share. edit: Yes right now there might not be an exact competitor but in a few years it could easily match everything Jira does.

Is Trello really a competitor though? JIRA and Trello couldn't be more different. I'd think Trello and Asana are much closer competitors. JIRA is like an over engineered spaceship with more features than anyone could learn in a lifetime. Comparatively Trello functions more like a Prius. Priuses and spaceships don't compete.

I totally agree. Trello is not a competitor to JIRA.

Don't get me wrong – I like them both. When I have to plan out personal projects, Trello is great. During the day, we use JIRA. The use cases are different, and the products are both suitable. I'm madly bemused that people look at the very, very surface layer of the UI (oh look, it has cards in columns!) and assume the products are the same.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by iimpact »

bovermyer wrote: post #120
aioprisan wrote: post #97

There's an open source clone of Trello that you can self-host: https://wekan.io/

How well does it work?

We tested it out at my company, and for the most part, it worked pretty good. Very Trello-like, and overall just a simple / easy to use Kanban board. Though, we did have problems 'viewing' the details of a card. Depending on how much data was in the details, it could take around 5-8 seconds to load.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by marcinkuzminski »

WayneBro wrote: post #169
marcinkuzminski wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it becomes more important when you use this for code-review. Then reach diffs makes more sense. Once you start using them you don't want to go back :)

I do use diffs for code review. I simply use a much, much better native tool instead of a crappy web tool.

we need to make the web ones get the same experience level then. It's great to have it all there. Were you leave your inline notes, there's a live communication part, all feedback from automated code checkers etc.
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