For crying out loud, what is wrong with people today.
Why I Studied Full-Time for 8 Months for a Google Interview
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Re: Why I Studied Full-Time for 8 Months for a Google Interview
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting how you consider "building his own companies" to be the next level. Maybe indeed this is a commonly held HN view. I've always thought doing a start-up (or working for a medium sized company) is what you do early on, in order to gain the skills needed and prep for the end goal: Working for one of the top prestigious companies. Look at all the start-ups that are evidently founded for the sole purpose of bei…
He's an ex-mil, current-genious computer scientist. Working for google would restrict him to google work. Working as a contractor, with a military background and a well documented solid computer science background (not traditional of course but still rock solid), he can pretty much right his own tickets in any R&D field. I can't think of a better person to contract out too: worked intel, speaks Korean (Southern diale…
Why are you calling him a "current-genius computer scientist" for studying the foundational subjects of an undergrad CS degree?
Re: Why I Studied Full-Time for 8 Months for a Google Interview
#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
People spend years at medical school or law school to become a doctor or lawyer. I don't see the big deal at devoting a huge amount of concentrated time and effort to being an engineer at Google. If you got the free time and willpower (and the author does), more power to you. If he doesn't get the job, he's still got the knowledge. And 8 months is nothing compared to multiple years in college.
> People spend years at medical school or law school to become a doctor or lawyer. True, but both of those are professions . Qualifications that you carry irrespective of your employer. Being 'a Google engineer' is not the same thing, although people might like to imagine it is.
According to the Department of Labor, a Google engineering job qualifies as professional and therefore exempt from overtime pay.
Re: Why I Studied Full-Time for 8 Months for a Google Interview
#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
He's an ex-mil, current-genious computer scientist. Working for google would restrict him to google work. Working as a contractor, with a military background and a well documented solid computer science background (not traditional of course but still rock solid), he can pretty much right his own tickets in any R&D field. I can't think of a better person to contract out too: worked intel, speaks Korean (Southern diale…
Why are you calling him a "current-genius computer scientist" for studying the foundational subjects of an undergrad CS degree?
Because I've found most masters and PhDs don't have a rock solid understanding of ALL of the Computer Science undertones.
Some are good at datastructures, some are good with algorithms, some are still studying concurancy, parallelism, and distributed systems, and the rest know cryptography (which I hold as not being a Computer Science discipline).
Very very few people have a rock solid grasp of everything (that I consider) in the CS field. If he underwent this curriculum and actually learned all of what he said he did he's a genious. He'd run circles around most people in a university who claim to know the material but are 5, 10, 15 years out of study.
One of my professors is running a class on C and writes everything like K&R (and doesn't use free after he allocates memory. He just allocates and forgets!). Another I have is teaching a programming language concepts class and he says "All of these crazy lazy evaluation nonsense languages are useless" in regards to the entire LISP liniage.
Again, by doing all of these you're far ahead of the curve.
Re: Why I Studied Full-Time for 8 Months for a Google Interview
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
Finance.
It's questionable whether you'll make more money as a developer in finance than at Google. It'll certainly require a lot more politics and careful planning.
I declined an offer from Jump Trading once. The money was very good, the people were very smart, and in the end, it was mostly that I was happy where I was (at Facebook) and didn't want to move to Chicago. Under difficult circumstances, I could have seen myself taking that offer and being very happy.
Re: Why I Studied Full-Time for 8 Months for a Google Interview
#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
All I see here are a lot of personal attacks. Feel free to explain what your definition of "religiosity" is and why it doesn't apply to what Bambax quoted.
I asked which part is religious. Bambax quoted some non-religious things. Why would it be on me to prove everything he/she says is not something it obviously isn't? Also, which attack is personal? I'm attacking an interpretation. Nothing personal about it.
Ok, so what is Googleyness?
Re: Why I Studied Full-Time for 8 Months for a Google Interview
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are you calling him a "current-genius computer scientist" for studying the foundational subjects of an undergrad CS degree?
Because I've found most masters and PhDs don't have a rock solid understanding of ALL of the Computer Science undertones. Some are good at datastructures, some are good with algorithms, some are still studying concurancy, parallelism, and distributed systems, and the rest know cryptography (which I hold as not being a Computer Science discipline). Very very few people have a rock solid grasp of everything (that I con…
What are you talking about?
This guy doesn't know all that. He might have it on his list, but he's still in the middle of learning the core subjects of a CS curriculum.
And pretty much any programmer could take the time to study these topics in depth and achieve that level of competence with them. Most choose not to.
Re: Why I Studied Full-Time for 8 Months for a Google Interview
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends on the location. Depends on your profile. Smart techs go to tech companies. Smart & ambitious techs go to finance. If you're at Google, you certainly won't participate in conversations with coworkers about how Google just tried to poach you with an offer soooo ridiculously low it's laughable.
Any chance you can share more info? I'm very curious. It's certainly true that almost all finance software jobs pay much less than the big tech companies, and I've yet to personally run into one that clearly paid more (at best, similar or slightly more for some but not all algo trading). So I never exactly know what these comments mean. Which are the big payers -- just algo trading? -- and does everyone get paid that…
#London
SV and Wall Street in the same place = an interesting playing field.
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I wouldn't say it's fair to compare ALL finance jobs to a few big tech companies.
If you're doing over $500k somewhere in the USA, you should stay there. There are very few places on the planet that offers that for engineers. (and they're probably all big companies).
Re: Why I Studied Full-Time for 8 Months for a Google Interview
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
All I see here are a lot of personal attacks. Feel free to explain what your definition of "religiosity" is and why it doesn't apply to what Bambax quoted.
I asked which part is religious. Bambax quoted some non-religious things. Why would it be on me to prove everything he/she says is not something it obviously isn't? Also, which attack is personal? I'm attacking an interpretation. Nothing personal about it.
When you ridicule any aspect of a person (such as their interpretation of "religiosity"), it's a personal attack. Look up the definition of "personal". Oh, and yes: calling someone's interpretation of "religiosity" "ridiculous" is literally ridiculing said personal interpretation.
Btw, I noticed that you still haven't provided your own definition of "religiosity". Are you worried that someone else might ridicule that as well?
Re: Why I Studied Full-Time for 8 Months for a Google Interview
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any chance you can share more info? I'm very curious. It's certainly true that almost all finance software jobs pay much less than the big tech companies, and I've yet to personally run into one that clearly paid more (at best, similar or slightly more for some but not all algo trading). So I never exactly know what these comments mean. Which are the big payers -- just algo trading? -- and does everyone get paid that…
#London SV and Wall Street in the same place = an interesting playing field. --- I wouldn't say it's fair to compare ALL finance jobs to a few big tech companies. If you're doing over $500k somewhere in the USA, you should stay there. There are very few places on the planet that offers that for engineers. (and they're probably all big companies).
Can you throw out some numbers?
I almost never hear of London developers making >$200k.