Why the World Needs WikiLeaks

Post by hackuser » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 11:20 PM UTC

grandalf wrote: post #71

hackuser wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never heard of them verifying the information. They said they didn't even know where it came from. I doubt the DNC helped verify the emails. > what misinformation have they spread? Russian intelligence provided them with the data. I think we can assume it wasn't the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. EDIT: You are correct that I can't prove that it's misinformation. However, that is a normal part…

Uh, the emails were verified as unaltered via DKIM signatures. Once Wikileaks did this all the talk of doctoring vanished, but you appear not to have realized this.

Post by hackuser » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 11:22 PM UTC

ovibos wrote: post #76

hackuser wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe strongly in transparency as a way to prevent corruption, but spreading misinformation doesn't stop corruption, it furthers it. It doesn't 'shine a light', it creates shadows where a brutal dictator can hide while he hurts others. Look up "useful idiots" to understand the role they played. It's too easy to cite principle such as "transparency" in order to ignore the difficult questions of responsibility and…

Wikileaks are not "spreading misinformation", they verify everything that they get before they leak it. This is why people take what they leak so seriously - any jackass with an internet connection can spread information, but wikileaks has a reputation for thouroughly vetting the information they recieve.

Post by sdegutis » Sat, Nov 19, 2016, 4:13 AM UTC

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #163

sdegutis wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, some will think so, but only those who are not familiar with how Catholic doctrine works. The rules are not arbitrary. Things like the requirement to go to Mass on Sunday are man-made rules, but made by those with authority, and for very good well-thought-out reason. Regardless of whether you agree that their authority is valid, it's not arbitrary in the least. And others are immutable laws of existence…

Well. They used to be different, how about that? For instance priests being celibate was just a marketing move. Doesn't sound so immutable. History shows the 'laws' were as fungible as the situation required.

Post by grandalf » Sat, Nov 19, 2016, 4:54 AM UTC

hackuser wrote: post #168

grandalf wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of the emails were proven authentic via DKIM signatures.

I searched and found no credible source supporting this claim. Do you know of one? Wikileaks makes the claim, and some very partisan sources repeat it, but that's all I see.

Post by JoeAltmaier » Sat, Nov 19, 2016, 1:55 PM UTC

sdegutis wrote: post #175

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well. They used to be different, how about that? For instance priests being celibate was just a marketing move. Doesn't sound so immutable. History shows the 'laws' were as fungible as the situation required.

You're confused. Celibacy for the priesthood is a rule made by the Church, not an immutable law. The fact that Baptism requires water is an immutable law.