Nvidia adds telemetry to latest drivers

Post by nitrogen » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 2:30 AM UTC

frik wrote: post #57

webkike wrote: post #39

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Likewise. I originally downloaded GeForce experience when I was installing my drivers. When I noticed login was required I uninstalled and downloaded the drivers manually.

Probably many experienced user do that. Same with Windows since XP. Yet the companies don't learn and use such biased telemetry data for statistics and decide based on them. I wonder if Office and Windows UI got worse and worse, because of reading to much into telemetry data? The WindowsVista devs wrre pretty open in their official blog about it back then. And remember how it tanked, and that was just a small thing c…

Post by nitrogen » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 3:11 AM UTC

dogma1138 wrote: post #146

blub wrote: post #114

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Google analytics. Anonymous. Couldn't possibly be used to track them. You've either missed the last decade of privacy-related discussions or you're playing for team spyware yourself. Companies like Google have billions, lawyers lobbyists, sociologists and every bloody specialist working for them to suck all information out of everybody and there's always some clueless person jumping to their defense with some pointle…

It's not about missing the privacy discussion it's about the public at large not giving a flying duck about it, regardless of what you think. Pick a random person on the street and ask them, you need to understand that by enlarge simply by knowing about this site you are already part of a tiny subculture of of the general population, and most likely living in a walled garden as far as your social connections goes. Pe…

Post by arthurfm » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 3:27 AM UTC

ronjouch wrote: post #16

brink wrote: post #6

On a related note; I can't even use NVidia's "Geforce Experience" any more without logging in. Thanks for that, NVidia. Just what I wanted; a driver tool that forces me to log in.

So annoying, yes. I since uninstalled GeForce Experience and replaced update notifications (the only feature I was using) with this ugly batch script. Careful, it's ugly! Botched stackoverflow-oriented batch brogramming! But it works for me! Feel free to reuse and improve :) @ECHO OFF setLocal EnableDelayedExpansion rem nvup.bat, a quick & dirty driver downloader since GeForce Experience requires a login. rem In a fo…

  $URI = 'http://www.geforce.com/proxy?proxy_url=http%3A%2F%2Fgfwsl.geforce.com%2Fservices_toolkit%2Fservices%2Fcom%2Fnvidia%2Fservices%2FAjaxDriverService.php%3Ffunc%3DDriverManualLookup%26psid%3D101%26pfid%3D815%26osID%3D57%26languageCode%3D1078%26beta%3D0%26isWHQL%3D1%26dltype%3D-1%26sort1%3D0%26numberOfResults%3D10'
  $Download = (Invoke-WebRequest $URI | ConvertFrom-Json | Select -ExpandProperty IDS)[0].downloadInfo.DownloadURL
  
  # Installed driver version (21.21.13.7570) > NVIDIA driver version (375.70)
  [Version]$Driver = (Get-WmiObject Win32_PnPSignedDriver | Select DeviceName, DriverVersion, Manufacturer | Where { $_.Manufacturer -eq "NVIDIA" -and $_.DeviceName -like "*GeForce GTX*" }).DriverVersion
  [Version]$CurrentDriver = ("{0}{1}" -f $Driver.Build,$Driver.Revision).Substring(1).Insert(3,'.')
  
  # Latest driver on NVIDIA's website
  [Version]$LatestDriver = ([System.Uri]$Download).Segments[-2].Trim('/')
  
  If ($CurrentDriver -lt $LatestDriver) {
      Write-Output "New driver available"
      Start-BitsTransfer -Source $Download -Destination "$env:USERPROFILE\Downloads"
      (New-Object -ComObject WScript.Shell).Popup("New NVIDIA driver downloaded",0,"Update")
  } Else {
      Write-Output "Same version. Nothing to download"
  }

Post by doubt_me » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 4:39 AM UTC

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #160

Esau wrote: post #111

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This is something that, I hate to say, will probably take a law to fix. Companies in general have shown a resistance to understanding why this is a problem (even when well intentioned).

This. As long as consumers have no way of knowing whether or not their information is being transmitted, what information it is, and how it will be used, corporations will continue to do it at will. We need strong user data protection laws here in the United States that make it extremely clear what rights you are signing away any time you allow a service to collect personal data about you.

Post by ocdtrekkie » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 5:06 AM UTC

doubt_me wrote: post #177

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #160

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This. As long as consumers have no way of knowing whether or not their information is being transmitted, what information it is, and how it will be used, corporations will continue to do it at will. We need strong user data protection laws here in the United States that make it extremely clear what rights you are signing away any time you allow a service to collect personal data about you.

Its bigger than that. We are at a point where I would pay a monthly premium in order to keep my privacy and would rather have a bunch of free tiered alternatives that are all explicitly non-private. Because lets be honest with ourselves nobody but us really gives a shit about their privacy. And it is a billion dollar industry. Let people who do not care keep the free shit at an up front cost rather than all this runn…