Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

techcrunch.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

171–180 of 224 posts

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

#171

Post by kabdib »

rayiner wrote: post #120
kabdib wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a tactile point, not the same. I've rage-quit keyboards because of nerfed ESC keys before, so this one won't be the first. I put a piece of double-sided sticky tape on my ESC key just to make me notice how often I hit it. When I'm editing, it's all the time . The seeming last-minute addition of a remapping feature for ESC in OSX leads me to believe that the software people at Apple were railroaded by some hardwa…

> Hard to believe that whole teams using Emacs / vim were ignored What do you use ESC for in Emacs? I used to occasionally use it to hit M-x, but now I use key-chord.el to map 'xx' to M-x and it's all good.

I used ESC as a M- prefix, of course. Also I use the command key. It's a mix of whatever is convenient and whatever my fingers have learned over a few decades.

Maybe Apple has decided to kill off the pesky Emacs and vim users. Yeah. :-)

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

#172

Post by fishanz »

grzm wrote: post #146
fishanz wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. This is a MAJOR regression in quality.

What in particular? Reviews on Amazon are mixed. 3.3/5 stars with 88 reviews. Looks like complaints are a mix of: - weak magnets - cosmetic (black, thicker, stiffer cable, bulky connector) Does this square with your experience?

I was referring to the MagSafe feature being removed. Seems small but it actually prevents accidents. As my colleague said today: "hope apple care includes drops"

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

#173

Post by ethana »

sandipc wrote: post #29
unclenoriega wrote: post #12

MagSafe was one of my favorite things about Apple laptops. I'm sorry to see that go.

Here's an alternative... surprised Apple didn't introduce something similar today https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-po...

It's a solution nobody asked for.

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

#174

Post by eridius »

Yodoshi wrote: post #157
eridius wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Im not some elitist 'iOS' developer ...huh? If you develop for iOS, you're an iOS developer. Where does elitism come in? As for the computer, I wasn't complaining that you didn't call it a "desktop", I was trying to point out that the computer is called an iMac, not an Imac. Do you also call your iOS device an Iphone? And do you call Xcode xCode? These kinds of careless mis-capitalizations are a strong sign that yo…

I feel getting angry about capitalisation of a product (which some may see as being a 'grammar nazi') is very much a sign of elitism. Looking down on me for not being a 'serious' IOS developer therefore implying I cant have opinion and voice it is doubly so.

It is not even remotely elitism to say "you don't have much experience doing iOS development, therefore you're not qualified to talk about what is or is not good hardware for doing iOS development on".

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

#175

Post by ant6n »

eridius wrote: post #83
ant6n wrote: post #28

I wish they'd just replaced 2 thunderbolt ports and magsave with 3 usb-c ports (leaving two usb, a hdmi port and sd card reader), made the screen matte, gave me 32gb and a fanless design.

Fanless design means performance is seriously crippled. The fact that the fanless MacBook works at all is impressive.

Well, finally a worthwhile problem for Apple to solve. They're pretty good at solving engineering issues, they've mostly been focussed on making shit thinner though.

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

#176

Post by PleaseHelpMe »

omribahumi wrote: post #21
eibrahim wrote: post #3

So disappointed. I had my wallet ready to order but this is no different than my current MBP. A half baked touch screen!!! Not worth the $3500 I was going to drop on a new MBP. I can't imagine going back to windows because I enjoy the terminal and vim but seriously considering it specially that now I can run bash on windows

Anyone tried the Windows 10 Linux Subsystem?

Yes. It is great. Issues are handle very nicely via their github Repo so you dont feel left out while using it. It's currently in Beta but most of the things that I use (python3 ,pip, npm...) work like a charm

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

#177

Post by akhilcacharya »

mattbroekhuis wrote: post #20

I was hoping for more RAM capacity. I don't really run into issues but I feel like I've been running 16 for 8 years or something like that.

Absolutely absurd. I bought my 2014 rMBP for $1700 with 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD - the same setup with the new model is $2K. And if I add 16GB RAM to the base model without the OLED strip, it's still $1700 with only 2 ports!

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

#178

Post by kabdib »

matthewaveryusa wrote: post #68
kabdib wrote: post #24

It's pretty bad. We use YubiKeys a lot, and there are no ports for them. So sad. Also: Magsafe is great (it's saved my bacon a few times). Gone. ESC key, gone. Don't know about the keyboard yet, but everything I've read doesn't point to it being decent. Probably not buying this generation of MacBooks. Might just bite the bullet and finally go to Linux on some decent hardware. So, what's a decent laptop for running Li…

Going linux on decent hardware isn't biting the bullet one bit. Thinkpads are seriously nice and the days where you couldn't get your audio and wifi working on linux have been over for ~5 years. Give it a shot, and you just might like it.

> Going linux on decent hardware isn't biting the bullet one bit.

I've tried before. I've got a couple of laptops at home running Linux, but they didn't stick. I didn't actually move to them. Moving is a kind of commitment, you're saying "Well, this is probably good enough that I can make it work for the next decade or two." And that's unclear.

Moving platforms means changing some everyday tools. Visual Studio on Windows == XCode on OSX, but I'm not really happy with IDEs on Linux. (Visual Studio is really difficult to beat in terms of debugging experience, in my experience).

It's not necessarily worse, though some things are. OSX has some nice creature comforts where things just work and I don't want to waste time tweaking the environment any more than I have to.

So moving to Linux with the intent of staying there for the next decade or more is, indeed, biting the bullet.

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

#179

Post by akhilcacharya »

ant6n wrote: post #28

I wish they'd just replaced 2 thunderbolt ports and magsave with 3 usb-c ports (leaving two usb, a hdmi port and sd card reader), made the screen matte, gave me 32gb and a fanless design.

Agree, save for the matte screen. That plus at least a newer chipset would have been perfect.

But nope.

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

#180

Post by VelNZ »

rashkov wrote: post #111
bluthru wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Why not just make the iPhone 7 USB-C instead? It's too thick going forward. It's already too thick for the Pencil.

Sorry could you elaborate? Not understanding what you mean. Very much wondering the answer to this question

The USB-C plug is larger than the Lightning plug. Putting a USB-C plug on the Apple Pencil would have made it not as sleek.
Post reply on HN