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Post by rodgerd »

morgante wrote: post #140
m_ke wrote: post #137

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Senate races? Enthusiasm for Trump is falling and if republicans don't show up to vote then it's very likely that democrats will get control of the senate. Then there's Palantir. Even if Trump doesn't win, the "law and order" rhetoric is resonating with a lot of americans. Trump wants to ban muslims, put together a deportation force, bring back stop and frisk, more border control, nukes for everyone, boots on the gro…

> Then there's Palantir. That's a fair point. Palantir is very well-positioned to be the IBM of Trumpism.

Am I meant to infer "do for Trump what IBM did for Hitler" from that?

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Post by finance-geek »

fulafel wrote: post #166
eksu wrote: post #79

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Required jobs scale very very poorly with population. I wouldn't be surprised if the rate was something less than 1 additional person in the workforce for every 10 additional people in the population.

That would mean that countries with larger populations would have higher unemployment rates, but that is not the case.

It would mean that any poor country could simply become wealthy by allowing unlimited immigration...Most poor countries are nicer relative to some worse-off country, so certainly there would not be a shortage of immigrants wanting to migrate.

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Post by eruditely »

davesque wrote: post #117

My breaking point with Trump (when I decided he is a menace to American society) was reached a long time ago with his proposed ban on Muslim immigration. It was demagoguery not unlike the kind used by Hitler -- attempting to place blame on a very clearly defined minority group to make his followers more motivated. Doing this was simply not right in the most fundamental way and painted a target mostly on innocent peop…

and instead you decided to betray me and my race, dear european, by not being strong enough.

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Post by internaut »

rconti wrote: post #70
throwaway101416 wrote: post #30

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I think it's very difficult to find truly unbiased statistics on this. Every current well-known analyst has been repeatedly egregiously wrong on the matter throughout this election cycle.

On matters of opinion, ABSOLUTELY. On matters of polling, absolutely false. Even Brexit was predicted by the polls, it just didn't happen until a week before the vote. (It's worth noting, of course, the same could happen here. And that's probably what Thiel is counting on).

With Brexit the reporting of what was going on was dodgy, even the leader of UKIP thought he'd failed. The bookies had Remain at something like .90 probability.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-23/bookies-pl...

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Post by snovv_crash »

blhack wrote: post #84
threeseed wrote: post #74

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Most politics/polling nerds look at aggregations of polls. Not sure where you get this idea that they are interested in a poll like USC which is such an outlier.

The fact that it's an outlier doesn't interest you? Maybe we have different definitions of "nerd".

The fact that it's an outlier means, statistically, that it is more likely to be wrong.

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Post by newscracker »

morgante wrote: post #29

I'm genuinely curious what the rational for Thiel is in doing this. He's a smart guy, but I just don't see the ROI. At this point, it seems very unlikely that Trump will get elected. So Thiel isn't getting access to a future President. Plus, in addition to the monetary cost of the donation there's definitely a very real reputational cost. A lot of people in SV hate Trump and are completely mystified as to Thiel's sup…

> I'm genuinely curious what the rational for Thiel is in doing this. He's a smart guy, but I just don't see the ROI.

I personally see him more of a cunning guy than just smart because I find his actions disturbing.

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Post by ivv »

2AF3 wrote: post #156
mixologic wrote: post #149

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Which is why thats an awful gauge of the electorate. The vast majority of voters do not attend political events, and "attendees at events" is really just an uncorrelated measure of "enthusiasm for a candidate amongst their base". If 40% of the country loved him so much that they all showed up at every single rally, yet the other 60% hate him, and will vote for HRC despite not really loving her, then you see a rally f…

It might not be great, but I trust it more than these dishonest polls

Bernie is a good counter-example. Huge rallies, way behind in votes.

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Post by Artistry121 »

eruditely wrote: post #141

I'm glad to see our Dutch friends have stayed sensible, I'm not-white and I'm voting for Trump because he will not prioritize blacks/mexicans over asian/indian people. There's a huge resentment in the asian communities, and it's super common to say "Fuck white people" "Don't hang out w/ white ppl". Because of built up resentment. if you're a minority learn the differences between white people and what they believe, y…

Explain more please.

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Post by mcrae »

CptJamesCook wrote: post #155
davesque wrote: post #117

My breaking point with Trump (when I decided he is a menace to American society) was reached a long time ago with his proposed ban on Muslim immigration. It was demagoguery not unlike the kind used by Hitler -- attempting to place blame on a very clearly defined minority group to make his followers more motivated. Doing this was simply not right in the most fundamental way and painted a target mostly on innocent peop…

A comparison between Trump and Hitler is ridiculous. There is simply no comparison, and the idea of is an insult to the millions slaughtered by Nazi Germany. 9 years before Hitler became president of Germany, he wrote in Mein Kampf: "the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew." and "Aryans were, and are, alone “the carrier of the development of human culture." He fo…

I don't think the parent is saying that Trump is literally Hitler, but rather that his rhetoric targeting specific minorities is alarmingly similar to that of Hitler's and his National-Socialist party during their rise to power.

No doubt the Holocaust was one of the most horrific crimes ever committed -- should we not then be all the more vigilant in preventing such similar hate speech from entering the mainstream?

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Post by kyrre »

baytrailcat wrote: post #142
naveenspark wrote: post #44

Its unclear what Peter Thiel is supporting with this donation. This candidate is highly inconsistent. Perhaps his bet is that if this candidate is elected, it will result in chaos. A sharp, rapid upheaval will enable him to accelerate his overall agenda. Given his net worth he is insulated from the negative effects this chaos will have on everyone else. Given his net worth he, and others who support his agenda can qu…

This is my thinking too. Anyone who has been paying attention knows that he doesn't have anything closer to a consistent policy in his platform. To be fair, there is a lot of copy-paste from standard GOP platform, but his own speeches and interviews give out the impression that he doesn't have a handle on any of them. So to think that Thiel might have hitched his wagon based on ideology or policy is illogical. On the…

He has been consistent on almost all issues. He only modified the "muslim ban".
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