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Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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You have to buy from a European reseller.

Since the power plug is built into the repeaters, I assume I won't be able to plug it directly into my Australian wall socket.

Maybe. I've modded more than one device from the US for AU power by changing 1 capacitor for a higher voltage unit.

I believe European mains is 220 volts and our Australian mains is 230 volts, so it should be fine. I think.

Might need an adapter or change the plug.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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In this case, OnHub has pretty much no configuration other than the SSID and password.

That's terrible. What about: - Proxy settings - MAC address cloning - Port forwarding - Strict security controls - Wifi bands, 2.4 vs 5GHz (I guess this is less important) - Logs

It does have port forwarding buried under advanced settings but I didn't see the others.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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Motion seconded on Unifi. I've just deployed these and they're so far a delight. The PoE (power-over-ethernet) support is great -- if you can get the ethernet cable to the AP's location, you're good. Allows for zero visible cable installations if you have the opportunity to do in-wall cabling. I did spring for a "Unifi Cloud Key", which is just a small (pack of cards sized), dedicated host for running the Unifi Contr…

I wish they didn't do 24V PoE. I know they are coming from a WISP background, but a AP seems like something that should support 802.11af. It's not like it's something exotic.

Note that the Unifi AP AC Pro (which I'm using) are 802.3af/at (PoE/PoE+). The AC LR and AC Lite are indeed passive 24v. So there's that option within the line at least.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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In my NYC apartment, the physical WAN connection is in a rather unfortunate location. There's no good spot to place a router in the center of the apartment, and no unobtrusive way to run cable there if there was such a spot. As a result I have to choose between a wifi dead zone in my bedroom, or a strategically located repeater. I've chosen the latter. If I lived in a less dense area, in a wood-framed house of the sa…

Unless you have lead walls, a ~1000 sq ft apartment should be fully covered by a single access point. The problem in NYC is that there's just too much band crowding; adding more access points is only going to provide an improvement (if any at all) until everyone else does it, too, and then it's going to be worse for everyone. We really need better solutions for extremely high-density deployment of competing WiFi netw…

  The problem in NYC is that there's just too much band crowding
802.11ad will help there: runs on 60GHz. Certainly won't penetrate drywall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ad

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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For Ubiquiti I'd suggest linking to https://www.amplifi.com instead of ubnt.com. AmpliFi is their mesh networking product aimed at consumers, whereas almost everything on ubnt.com is aimed at enterprise use.

With Amplifi out, until I see performance numbers, I'm still going to suggest UniFi AP AC Pros due to how fucking ridiculously good they are.

I can't speak to Amplifi as I've just heard about it a few moments ago, but I second the UniFi AC Pros. Long story short, the 2.4ghz spectrum where I live is saturated, and the 5ghz spectrum is wide open. 2 APs, a Cloud Key, and a PoE switch later and I have full 5ghz coverage on both floors. I can bury the capacity with file transfers, BitTorrent, Netflix, etc and it doesn't skip a beat.

The bad news is if you're used to the cost of consumer gear, this ain't it. When it was all said and done it set me back $400. Throw in the cost of a pfSense router (because my old workhorse died recently) and we're at about $600. So, much like everything else, getting to that first 90% is cheap. That last 10%, not so much.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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My Airports work just fine and have worked for years. I think that the WiFi issues are mostly that people are only willing to pay like $50 for their WiFi router. At this price point I'm not sure it changes anything.

If you try to use multiple Airport routers together without Ethernet you get severely reduced bandwidth. These routers (and other similar products) have multiple radios which allow mesh networking without reducing bandwidth as much. In a large house where running cable isn't an option having a mesh network can solve a lot of issues. In a small apartment a single access point is probably sufficient.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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I've used my Airport Express to extend my Airport Base Station for years. Is this "mesh networking?" How is Google WiFi different?

If you ran an Ethernet cable you probably get a similar experience. Otherwise Airport routers use a single radio for communicating with the other access point and clients. This greatly reduces bandwidth.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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Unfortunately, it doesn't take lead to attenuate WiFi signals. Many turn-of-the-century buildings used chickenwire under plaster on the interior walls. This makes a pretty effective Faraday cage: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB126221116097210861 My SF apartment is the same -- well under 1,000sqft, need an enterprise router and a substantial repeater to get signal on the end opposite from the cable modem.

It's not just old buildings, either – at a previous employer we learned that a lot of the interior walls had a similar mesh inside. You could put a Cisco AP set to the highest power levels on one side, move a laptop one foot away on the other side and barely be online. We solved that by adding extra APs, which wasn't a big deal since we had the budget and plenty of Ethernet drops but in a residential building - espec…

My house, built <20 years ago (UK), has something similar. Currently at 4 APs (DD-WRT routers acting as APs, all hardwired to a central router), and still some rooms only get a patchy signal (fortunately we're more than 50ft on all sides from other building, so not too concerning about interference). 5GHz is even worse - for any practical use, it's pretty much limited to a single room per router.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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Wait, OnHub doesn't support IPv6?! That's inexcusable. There's no reason IPv6 couldn't "just work" too. Google Wifi had better support IPv6 at launch.

If you require IPv6 so crucially, you probably shouldn't be using consumer grade gear.

IPv6 is for everyone: consumers, businesses, whatever else exchanges packets.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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Serious question: whose WiFi is not working, to the degree that they think, "I really need to get a modern router to make this Internet thing actually work." I'm seeing about a dozen fancy modern wifi routers all trying to solve a problem I'm not sure exists.

I used to have wifi issues, but then I bought one of the UniFi Long Range wifi models. I really can't imagine a house that would not be entirely serviced by a single one of those. I still get 3 bars on my iPhone 30 meters down my driveway, let alone in the house. I got one because we use them at work, and I was still getting usable internet in a supermarket 100 meters from my office across a parking lot. They are des…

Getting range in open air is easy (relatively speaking), but obstructions (walls etc.) can have a huge effect. I've managed >100m on a WRT-54G (with a slightly increase output power and a 7dBi antenna); same setup wouldn't reliably connect between my study and living room (~15m distance) due, presumably, to the metal in the walls.
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