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Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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You can do this on Android. At least I can, as a Google music subscriber (so I have YouTube Red). I just tested it with a random video.

And if you're not in US?

This app can do it: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpi...

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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So can I finally delete the fortune app from my phone? I think this forced installation of tens of useless Google apps on android is horrible. I don't use their crappy services and I should be able to delete their apps from my phone. And I don't want to root because that invalidates knox in my phone, which I need for office stuff. I'm excited to use this new app but the older one should be deletable.

The "Fortune" app? As you mention knox, I assume this is an app that Samsung force installs on your phone; so I don't really see what Google can do (without locking Android down even more, and I'd rather they didn't).

Google is mostly going in the opposite direction and allowing you to uninstall any apps you don't use [1] -- admittedly, the Youtube app is not one of them on my 6P. But, I can disable it so it's not visible in the app drawer. In fact I can disable all the google apps and have always been able to do so (the only exceptions are non-Google, "system" apps).

Doesn't help if you buy a Samsung phone though....

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=nexus+uninstall+google+apps

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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So now there's YouTube app (which doens't allow me to listen to a talk offline on an airplane or background or pay for YouTube Red), YouTube Music app (which I'm not allowed to use at all), YouTube Gaming (which has an UI and UX build by a madman). Then there's AndroidTV version of YouTube app which has severe feature limitations and probably some others as well. I don't really like to be negative, but it doesn't see…

Im uh... not sure what you are on about with the red and download bit. Im a youtube red subscriber, and I can download videos for offline viewing in the youtube app. It also indicates that I am a red subscriber in it.

> Im uh... not sure what you are on about with the red and download bit.

"YouTube Red isn’t available in your country." Which of course somehow has to mean I'm not allowed to watch non-monetized videos offline.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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post #104

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Somehow Apple and some other companies manage to handle that way better, including offline downloads for content and the ability to give them my EUR. Google on the other hand refuses to even show us Podcasts category on Play music. Podcasts.

There's a podcasts section in the Google Music Android app; what are you referring to?

The fact that there is no podcast section my Google Music Android app. Google managed to region lock podcasts.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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So now there's YouTube app (which doens't allow me to listen to a talk offline on an airplane or background or pay for YouTube Red), YouTube Music app (which I'm not allowed to use at all), YouTube Gaming (which has an UI and UX build by a madman). Then there's AndroidTV version of YouTube app which has severe feature limitations and probably some others as well. I don't really like to be negative, but it doesn't see…

That's the outside view. For a inside view, it's pretty much résumé-driven development. Everyone in the team wins. And offline stuff won't happen on the main Youtube app because politics.

But the offline stuff is already in there and implemented. For some reason outside US we're just not allowed to use/pay for it.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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"While in Nagpur, I met a young man who loved using YouTube to watch WWE wrestling and wanted to show us his favorite video. But after he found it and tapped to play, the video just wouldn’t load" I believe this is really bad example, as WWE is a "premium content" so you have to pay extra to watch it. Therefore Youtube removes those videos (there is only 2 WWE videos which is from legal accounts). So it's pretty awkw…

This also struck me. I was surprised that they picked WWE of all things, you would think that video would be region locked and thus not available outside of the US, like a lot of things are.

Perhaps them using that specific example was an attempt to court Mr. McMahon into opening licensing negotiations, by demonstrating the profitability of a specific target demographic that is watching pirated content anyways.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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That always amazes me how pop music passes it. Search for rap song Coco. It's about being love with cocaine and violence and it shows me Kia car ads with families before the video. And some semi amateur authors who TALKED about true crime events were banned from the YouTube adsense partnership.

I don't see that as inconsistent. The term is 'advertiser friendly'. Plenty of advertisers are happy to be associated with popular artists because their popularity gives the advertiser cover. Equally, they might not want to be associated with a small-time true crime channel.

The term is not really advertiser friendly. Adsense (also YouTube) TOS makes it very clear ALL the content needs to be family friendly to begin with. Of course, I understand big labels are given an exception but it doesn't make it less hypocritical.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Google's sudden push for India is kinda spooky.

Oddly enough, the billion-plus, relatively-well-educated, developing nation your CEO happens to have been born in might find itself a slightly corporate emphasis.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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They would gain more advertisers paying them money to advertise with them. Yes, it's automated, but there's some degree of oversight. Once again, there's no way they didn't realize that videos uploaded by one of their departments violated their monetization agreements. And it's not senseless propaganda. It's already starting to happen, or is likely to happen. Have you been paying attention to the YouTube scene? Like,…

>> What do they gain from removing advertising from any video? Any money you make is money they make. > They would gain more advertisers paying them money to advertise with them. I don't really understand what you're saying here. Why would more advertisers pay them money if less videos had advertisements?

Advertisers will pay them more money if they can be confident their adverts won't be placed on videos where they would negatively impact the advertiser's brand.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Hopefully this will actually work in all countries; I'd love to save videos for offline viewing while I have a wifi connection and watch them later when I don't. But that would compete with "YouTube Red". For that matter, since an offline video eliminates the buffering problem, I'd love to have the "playback speed" feature in the mobile app. The web version of YouTube supports changing the playback speed to 1.25x, 1.…

Saving videos sounds awesome until you have that feature (Amazon video app has it for instance). You never think about saving stuff when the connection is good, and when you think about it, it is because the connection just went horrible and you are not able to stream or save anything anymore.
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