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Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by jordanthoms »

azinman2 wrote: post #157
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #97

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It's a trade-off. I hate that on iOS I have to have location services ON in order for, say, owncloud to back up my photos in the background. On Android, it just works in the background like it should. Sure, iOS saves on battery because of this, but I strongly feel I should have a say in this as a user. Some apps really should be allowed to run in the background.

Except everyone misuses such a thing, privacy gets violated, often don't test well for battery in many different conditions, and then users end up with a shit experience yet don't have the technical expertise to understand why (or which app is causing the problem). Android is particularly difficult since you can have a service running without an app present, so disabling it isn't very intuitive. I think Apple has don…

Android's starting to head down this road in a better way - add more restrictions to prevent poorly written apps from draining your battery, but allow a override in settings to 'disable battery optimizations' for that app so the user still has control.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by devicenull »

wastedhours wrote: post #50
jonesetc wrote: post #14

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It'll be a bummer not using latest android for the first time in many years (HTC G2 -> Nexus 4 -> Nexus 5), but I really can't imagine anything compelling me to pay hundreds of dollars for a new phone for a couple more years. The Nexus 5 has been practically the perfect phone for me.

I'd agree - however after nearly 3 years the speakers on my N5 are nigh on unusable (phonecalls are only really possible with a headset or loudspeaker), the power cable refuses to stay put and tries to make a break for it every 5 minutes, and there's still an annoying bug where the screen is flaky/unresponsive when it is finally plugged in. Not sad about missing out on Nougat at the moment, but the sheer number of N5…

Do you have the fun issues where the power button sticks, resulting in an endless boot loop? I've resorted to percussive maintenance, which oddly fixes the problem for months at a time.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by philsnow »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #162
primo44 wrote: post #35

No Android 7 on my Nexus 5 might just be what pushes me to iOS. I've gone from being an Android evangelist to being an Android apologist ("Yeah, battery life sucks. Google has failed to fix it after X years") to now being, frankly, pissed off that my expensive phone is going to be left behind.

Battery life sucks on Android flagship phones because they are running so many peripherals and the devs don't bother with aggressive power management. That is not Android's fault. Witness the $200 phones that get spectacular battery life on stock Android primarily because they aren't running hardware that mostly goes unused and are unburdened by poorly designed launchers written by enterprisey Java devs.

> Battery life sucks on Android flagship phones

> $200 phones that get spectacular battery life on stock Android because they ... are unburdened by poorly designed launchers written by enterprisey Java devs.

Are you saying that there are launchers / home screens that are _better_ than stock android in some dimension? I'm interested to hear more.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by brianjking »

qubitcoder wrote: post #147
mrrsm wrote: post #70

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I didn't know about this and now I am really interested in the update. I've been using one of the overlay ones for a while and it is kind of annoying.

I just upgraded to Android 7.0. Night Mode is still there! You can access it by enabling the system UI tuner. Just swipe down from the top of the screen to reveal the quick settings, and then press and hold the Settings icon (gear) for a few seconds and release. This will enable the UI tuner. Swipe down from the top again, then tap "EDIT" in the bottom right corner. There should be a tile for "Night mode", which you…

Did you upgrade from DP5?

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by jamroom »

drusepth wrote: post #115
adamors wrote: post #62

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The iPhone SE is similarly priced and iOS devices receive updates for more than 3 years. iPhone 5 for instance got and runs fine iOS 9, 4 years after release.

iOS 9 runs hilariously badly on the iPhone 5.

I have an iPhone 64G and iOS 9 runs just fine. In fact it runs so well I've not seen any reason to upgrade.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by ndesaulniers »

Navarr wrote: post #106
UncleChis wrote: post #65

Did I read it right: Nexus Player is in the list of OTA update? I thought the device is dead? Anyone has a link of Nougat for Android TV?

I've been running the beta - which is a terrible idea on a day-to-day Nexus Player. It does not prompt you for updates - it just updates. This is fine if you're on a stable channel. This is not great when it's your primary entertainment resource on a beta channel. However, it's pretty nice? I know it has some added features but it doesn't really feel much different in 7 than it did in 6. I haven't had a chance to use…

A lot of love went into player for N. It's in better shape than in M.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by chambo622 »

ndesaulniers wrote: post #176
Navarr wrote: post #106

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I've been running the beta - which is a terrible idea on a day-to-day Nexus Player. It does not prompt you for updates - it just updates. This is fine if you're on a stable channel. This is not great when it's your primary entertainment resource on a beta channel. However, it's pretty nice? I know it has some added features but it doesn't really feel much different in 7 than it did in 6. I haven't had a chance to use…

A lot of love went into player for N. It's in better shape than in M.

This makes me want to buy one to replace my ADT-1...which is not easy to do these days.

I sure hope there is a future for standalone Android TV boxes that aren't as expensive and large as the Shield.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by notatoad »

wlesieutre wrote: post #24
magila wrote: post #11

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Not really surprising given the device's age, but still disappointing given the presumably rather large number of Nexus 5 still in use. The bigger story may be the inability to come up with a compelling reason for N5 users to upgrade, other than getting the latest OS revision. The N5's compactness in particular makes the 5X (and the impending successor, codenamed "Sailfish") a tough sell.

> Not really surprising given the device's age Nexus 5 released late 2013, last major OS update in late 2015. Compare to the iPhone 4S, which came out late 2011 and still got iOS 9 (4 years later). Really not buying the "two years is plenty of updates" excuse, especially from the Nexus line.

>Really not buying the "two years is plenty of updates" excuse, especially from the Nexus line.

I'm not impressed with two years of updates either, but I don't think people have any right to complain when that's exactly what they were promised when they bought their phones.

If people are disappointed because they chose to believe, against all evidence, that Google would exceed the promised two years of updates, that's nobody's problem but their own.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by karma_vaccum123 »

ZenoArrow wrote: post #102
pasbesoin wrote: post #94

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My 2013 Nexus 7 is perfectly fine... except for now being left behind, software-wise. I bought once / as soon as I learned that its successor had not been worth waiting for. So, I got significantly less than 3 years out of it. Would have bought the successor, except... Guess I'll be rooting it. And buying Apple, next time.

Android 6 is very likely to be supported for quite some time by app developers, it's not like you're missing out on much by not running the latest version of the OS.

Exactly! I own this device and still use it often...I see no reason to stop using it. It received a security patch just recently, and I don't feel that missing out on further updates will impact watching YouTube videos
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