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Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by exabrial »

untog wrote: post #65

Among the more disappointing things in all of this is that there is a rational, important conversation to be had about everyday awareness of security and government inflexibility. But there won't be, because she is Hillary Clinton and it is 2016. Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone. She (I personally believe) was likely ignorant…

Actually no, we're fortunate this isn't happening in 2017, or 2018. We can still keep her out of office, and we should, on moral grounds, not party grounds.

Unfortunately, the alternatives to her aren't that great either. I'm hedging my bets until November, hoping some sort of miracle happens. Hoping this election invokes the 12th amendment and goes to the house. I feel none of the current candidates would be eligible and we'd get a fresh start.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by chiaro »

stillusingvb6 wrote: post #150
atf104 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok she sucks, but she's still the lesser of the two evils imho.

Not sure I'd agree. Seems like her voting record aligns more with neocons than liberals (war, traditional marriage, super predators, etc)

That's a bit of a myth that's come about when compared to Sanders. In reality, her voting record is around the 70th percentile most liberal out of Democrat senators (referring to her last year).

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/hillary-clinton-was-liber...

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by venomsnake »

okaram wrote: post #91
drakefire wrote: post #3

This story just keeps getting better. There is either a grand nefarious plot, or worse, horrific incompetence. I just can't find a third possibility.

It is neither. It is just standard 'incompetence'; this is really '65 year old doesn't understand computers' ; details @ 11

It is "65 years old wants to skirt the rules and no in her entourage had the skills to do it properly or the balls to tell her it is a bad idea".

In a sense I am sympathetic with her - this is the type of hacking the system we at HN tend to admire. Clinton is "Uber for Email" before it was cool - dislike the rules and current infrastructure - build your own.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by mentalpiracy »

zzzeek wrote: post #155
stillusingvb6 wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure I'd agree. Seems like her voting record aligns more with neocons than liberals (war, traditional marriage, super predators, etc)

Bernie actually voted for the bill related to "super predators", Hillary did not. How Hillary is blamed for that and not Bernie is unbelievable.

Likely because Hillary is the one who uttered the phrase.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by stillusingvb6 »

zzzeek wrote: post #166
stillusingvb6 wrote: post #157

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18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f)

here's a great rebuttal to that: http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/no-hillary-did-not-commit-a-... using this statue to prosecute would not only violate the spirit and intent of the law but also be very unlikely, given precedent, to result in any conviction. Hence a competent prosecutor would likely not seek to prosecute based on this law, nor should they, as it would be a waste of taxpayer money not to mention the ill…

Jan 29th. Seems like the information released in the last few days points to her knowingly violating security protocol.

I doubt she will be prosecuted but this has sunk her campaign. It's over.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by blhack »

tempestn wrote: post #158
wrong_variable wrote: post #84

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oh my god, this is depressing sad. She could have hired a team of machine learning grad students to build her a personalized spam filter. but she went with the cheapest option. this is going to keep me upset for a while.

> She could have hired a team of machine learning grad students to build her a personalized spam filter. Or instead of reinventing the wheel, installed an existing spam detection product like SpamAssassin on the email server.

Or, truly the craziest of possible scenarios: simply followed the instructions given to her by the people administering her access to the government's IT infrastructure.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by stillusingvb6 »

chiaro wrote: post #172
stillusingvb6 wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure I'd agree. Seems like her voting record aligns more with neocons than liberals (war, traditional marriage, super predators, etc)

That's a bit of a myth that's come about when compared to Sanders. In reality, her voting record is around the 70th percentile most liberal out of Democrat senators (referring to her last year). http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/hillary-clinton-was-liber...

This is a strange election. We have a Democrat who is pro-war, anti gay marriage, and backed by Saudis and wall Street.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by peteretep »

stillusingvb6 wrote: post #150
atf104 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok she sucks, but she's still the lesser of the two evils imho.

Not sure I'd agree. Seems like her voting record aligns more with neocons than liberals (war, traditional marriage, super predators, etc)

    > Seems
I'd love to hear a shred of fact on this, beause everything I've read that's researched it shows that's an absolute falsehood.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by nickonline »

fvargas wrote: post #163
mikegioia wrote: post #102

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This is, in my opinion, the worst part of the story. Anyone who has set up a web-server on the public net knows what happens when you leave ports accessible like this to old, well-known software. There's a good chance people would target her domain/IP looking for exploits and I'd be scared to question just how many people got access to that machine.

I wouldn't say "anyone". Most people, technical or not, have no idea what they're doing when it comes to computer security and don't care enough or take the time to research best practices.

> Anyone who has set up a web-server on the public net

The statement wasn't just anyone

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by chiaro »

seehafer wrote: post #38
bitJericho wrote: post #31

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Worry not. Any democrat candidate on the ballet will beat trump. You can't win an election on the rich, white, male vote.

Donald is a test as to whether or not you can win an election on white votes. The rich, white, male votes are probably the one cohort of whites he's least likely to get.

Depends. You'd be right if you consider rich whites with a college degree, but I believe rich whites without one are more dependably Trump iirc.
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