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Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by fucking_tragedy »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #55
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The app also gives you insights into what's happening with your OnHub -- per device traffic sums, speed tests, alerts, etc. And we're constantly improving it. IMHO that's the real win with the OnHub; the router itself is constantly upgraded with up to date firmware with security updates and new features. And the mobile app that administrates it is constantly getting new features. Maybe I should transfer to marketing.

Honestly Google's rep for discontinuing support for stuff is why I'm not interested in such a connected device. Will it continue getting updates after Google drops it in 0-5 years? Who knows. Will the open-source community be able to put OpenWRT on it or something to give it life after it can no longer receive firmware updates? Not sure. I do know that my current Ubiquiti and Apple network infrastructure devices will…

Plug in an Apple Airport Express from ~2008 and see how supported it is in El Capitan.

I had to use Wine on Linux to use an older Windows application to do the initialization.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by Oletros »

robbiemitchell wrote: post #155

Every time I read a story about IFTTT support, I want to shout "Please look at Zapier, it's so much better!" Really, it's so much better. Zapier = AWS Lambda with hundreds of pre-built integrations, webhooks for the rest, multi-step jobs, arbitrary code execution (JS and Python) ... all in a UI with monitoring that makes all the trouble go away.

Perhaps it is better, but it is very expensive if you want more than 5 zaps or 100 tasks/month.

Right now, I have 25 recipes on IFTTT, if I would have the same number on Zapier I would have to pay $49/month.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by fucking_tragedy »

dannyr wrote: post #69
venomsnake wrote: post #9

> To create Recipes for things you would like to happen automatically, just register and login at IFTTT.com (it’s free) and connect to the OnHub channel. Then start cooking up the Recipes that serve you best. Because OnHub on IFTTT works with so many products and services, there are lots of options for Recipes you can create. And why this needs to be cloud service? Instead of locally running demon on a raspberry pi?

Maybe to make it more accessible to normal people?

I know a dozens of normal people who need a router but no non-tech oriented person who knows, cares about or would find utility in IFTTT.

Even if this was the case, a solution for normal people doesn't necessarily mean cloud based.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by timothya »

nitrogen wrote: post #121
victorhooi wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your point about "doing the right thing" is a complete logical fallacy. Are you implying that group A is somehow more deserving that group B? Don't forget - the "tech giants" you refer to are comprised of people, most of whom have jobs and families This isn't about whims of tech giants - more about whims of the market. If the pitchfork-waving masses on HN screaming about Revolv had all actually, well, bought a Revolv…

Charging money for hardware and then remotely disabling it sounds awfully similar to fraud.

They're giving full refunds to all their customers, so it's more like those customers got to use the device for "free" while it was available.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by timothya »

MaulingMonkey wrote: post #159
victorhooi wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That story has already been beaten to death....lol. Nest bought out Revolv - and then immediately ceased all sales. They then kept the servers running for another 18 months, before announcing they were going to shut them down. Revolv was an also-ran in the home automation stakes - speculation on my part, but there was probably a reason they got bought out instead of raking in the big bucks. Let's say they sold a few…

> Let's say they sold a few thousand units - do you really think it's worth keeping it running indefinitely? That's not the only option. Some alternatives would have been to make it not a SASS reliant brick. Or to open source enough that people could do that work themselves, at least in theory. Or to offer buybacks. I did read: > Nest is working with customers on a case-by-case basis on compensation, according Burnet…

It says on Revolv's website that they're giving full refunds to current customers:

"If you're a current Revolv customer, please email us at help@revolv.com so we can help you out during this transition and provide you with a refund of the purchase price of your Revolv hub." - http://revolv.com/

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by robk »

ProAm wrote: post #4

Until they discontinue support and turn the service off in a 18 months. It's hard to put any faith in google products anymore, especially with the new alphabet revenue strategy put into place.

For paid products, Google is being silly. The easy way to fix it is throw a wad of cash at people plus replace. For the Revolv they should have proactively offered a $200 apology credit in cash and a Nest voucher for a similar product. The cost of that goodwill is less than the negative reception they've gotten elsewhere.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by daurnimator »

rdegges wrote: post #3

OnHub is one of the best routers I've ever owned. I've been buying custom router hardware for years -- I even went as far as building my own OpenBSD / PFsense router way back when, but nothing I've ever built (or bought!) has given me the same reliability / stability / speed as the OnHub. I'm seriously impressed with it. Also: the OnHub management app for mobile is AMAZING. It is so cool. Awesome product. Really grea…

FWIW, I recently bought mikrotik hardware, and my god... it's so much better than the regular stuff I've been using for years.

You need to be rather technical to use it IMO, but they're such a step above the rest you'd be mad not to buy one.

e.g. model to get at the moment for home use: hAP ac. it's a 5 gigabit port router with ac wifi.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by djhn »

Is there a beginner guide for modern, home-use or pro-sumer quality, networking hardware in general, or device specific purchase recommendations for otherwise technically savvy people? Could someone please share a link? I've only ever used the hardware that comes for free with the contract from my cable operator, and I guess it works most of the time... but recently blind spots and and slow-speed-spots have been a nuisance.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by Natanael_L »

eli wrote: post #144
deelowe wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nest is an Alphabet property: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nest_Labs

That seems like an odd distinction. Isn't everything Google owns also owned by Alphabet? Is the consumer supposed to perceive a difference?

Google is now a subsidiary to Alphabet. So no.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by on_and_off »

eli wrote: post #144
deelowe wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nest is an Alphabet property: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nest_Labs

That seems like an odd distinction. Isn't everything Google owns also owned by Alphabet? Is the consumer supposed to perceive a difference?

Well, it seems that it is going to to make a difference in how Nest is managed.

Google has just created a hardware division that will handle most of its efforts in that area :

Nexus, Pixel, OnHub, ATAP, Chromecast, consumer hardware, ... they are all going to be integrated in this division instead of being scattered throughout the company.

Glass will also become a part of that division (Nest has been handling it since the end of the explorer program).

Nest will continue to operate independently.

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