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Post by AlexC04 » Thu, Apr 28, 2016, 8:15 AM UTC

pookeh wrote: post #144

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That's an unhelpful answer and misleading. React native has a LOT of attention. It has a lot of support. BUT as of this writing if you are developing in corporate IT (meaning possibly running windows 7 systems) you actually CANNOT run react-native tools on windows easily. I'm currently building an ionic project because I needed a cross-plat mobile app and work with a mix of OSX and windows 7 machines. Now that said,…

> BUT as of this writing if you are developing in corporate IT (meaning possibly running windows 7 systems) you actually CANNOT run react-native tools on windows easily. Eh? I use React Native on Windows. Works just fine. It's also very easy to install. Maybe you didn't try recently?

Post by scrollaway » Thu, Apr 28, 2016, 8:35 AM UTC

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Google replaced their XMPP messaging system by Hangouts, a 100% closed protocol with no signs of even wanting to open source it. From a FOSS pov, both Google and Microsoft have positive and negative sides to it. They're massive companies, you can't judge them as one giant blob. What MS is doing right now with .NET is fantastic for open source. Just like what Google is doing right now with Hangouts is frankly bullshit…

XMPP had a fair amount of shortcomings and the real issue is that federated systems don't solve spam. So everyone living in this "we'll run our own IM systems, just like email" is deluded, as spam in email is barely a solved issue. And much of the solution involves blocking "independent" servers.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 28, 2016, 11:47 AM UTC

colbyAFTrustedK wrote: post #60

cptskippy wrote: post #16

I'm glad to see Microsoft embracing Open-Source, C# is such a wonderful language and easy language to use. In light of all the trouble Oracle has been giving Google, I would love to see them embrace it and provide a true alternative to Java on Android.

Microsoft will need to revise their patent pledge first. If you look at the way it's currently written, it's almost as if it was specifically meant to preserve their option to pull an Oracle v Google against a vendor who decides to pick up .NET and run with it. Meanwhile, Google has switched away from their Apache Harmony derivative to the officially anointed sources, so there's not much incentive to make the move aw…

Post by colbyAFTrustedK » Thu, Apr 28, 2016, 11:48 AM UTC

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Microsoft will need to revise their patent pledge first. If you look at the way it's currently written, it's almost as if it was specifically meant to preserve their option to pull an Oracle v Google against a vendor who decides to pick up .NET and run with it. Meanwhile, Google has switched away from their Apache Harmony derivative to the officially anointed sources, so there's not much incentive to make the move aw…

How so?

Post by naasking » Thu, Apr 28, 2016, 11:51 AM UTC

lottin wrote: post #92

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> MS is doing Open Source today because it really has no choice And that's a good thing. It shows the strength of open source. MS is a company. Just as Google. Companies will "work towards the best interests of the movement" as long as those interests converge with theirs: make money. AFAIK large portions of Google's core business are closed source. They are not in open source for love.

MS has had in the past a systematic pattern of bullying, lying, cheating and a willingness to destroy social welfare by eliminating the competition and making their products the only option available in the market. This is extremely damaging. Yes every company wants to make money, but not every company will resort to that kind of sociopathic behaviour. Maybe they've changed, although I doubt it. I'm just saying - be…