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Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute

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Re: Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute

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That sounds clever and informed but is mostly obnoxious.

What? It's well known that both Uber and AirBnB long relied on their users to operate unlicensed jitneys and unlicensed, uninspected, uninsured lodging houses.

Uber originally was exclusively licensed town cars. Vacation rentals have been around for centuries.

And both are primarily successful because they have executed at a very high level on a consistent basis.

Re: Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute

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A few notes on items I find a bit strange here. 1. To get from the East Bay to SF in the carpool lane you need 2 passengers (3 people total - or a car that only seats two) 2. The East Bay already has a pretty nice system for this called the Casual Carpool which is probably its biggest competition. The Casual Carpool is just a bunch of spots (usually BART Stations) where drivers can stop and pick up a few other passen…

The largest such system I'm aware of is slugging in the DC area (particularly along the 95/395 corridor to Pentagon/downtown): at various parking lots, a driver pulls up to a line of people, says they have 3 slots and is heading to the Pentagon (say), and 3 people pile in and get to ride the HOV to the Pentagon. It's entirely free, almost entirely grassroots (governments occasionally ask that the pick-ups/drop-offs m…

Having never spent more than a few days in DC, the only reason I know about slugging is because of "Slugline" in House of Cards.

Re: Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute

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That sounds clever and informed but is mostly obnoxious.

I didn't mean to offend, but I apparently have. I truly believe what I said, so I would like to know how would you suggest I improve the comment?

For starters, suggesting that the primary cause of their success is anything other than consistently executing at a high level is insulting.

Secondly, Uber got big using exclusively licensed town cars. And vacation rentals have been around for centuries.

Re: Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute

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post #118

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> Most people are more concerned about getting somewhere than reading contracts Indeed. I'd also add "Getting somewhere cheap ..." as a primary incentive for these rides. I've used Craigslist "ride shares" between Montreal Toronto ($30) on a number of occasions. I fully understood the risks I was taking compared to paying 3x as much for a safer train ride ($100). The vehicle is advertised as being a Mercedes mini-bus…

Montreal Toronto is around $45 on VIA, no? Or are you talking about a round trip?

I presume the means to and from. In my specs shorthand that usually implies bidirectional communication.

Re: Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute

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Background checks? I had 2 UberX/Grab (the Singaporean Lyft) drivers who openly admitted to being ex-cons - and that in Singapore too. One even laughed that British prisons were like a 5* hotel compared to Asian ones. If these companies perform background checks, what are they checking for?

Being an ex-con should not disqualify you from driving a cab. Especially in a country like the US that has obscene incarceration rates, and where who ends up in prison is a factor of race and wealth more than the seriousness of the crime. An ex-con has paid his or her "debt to society" by being in prison. If we don't let them get a job and earn a living, how will they get rehabilitated in society? Edit: typo/car/cab.

Oh, I don't mind, personally, and I agree with you. I also think security on these apps is done by the dissuasive power of knowing that you are live-tracked and almost certain to be caught, rather than any pre filtering (which is the taxi industry's MO); this is a feature.

This is what Uber checks for in California: https://newsroom.uber.com/details-on-safety/

Basically any lifetime sex offense, or terrorist register; and anything violent, or DUIs in the last 7 years.

Both of my drivers would not have passed the last 7 years bit (from what I deduced from our conversation) so the standards are clearly different abroad.

Re: Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute

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A serious question to everyone complaining about uninsured drivers: do you ask your friends for proof of insurance before getting in their cars as passengers? Do any insurance companies sell passenger insurance to cover accidents when you're the passenger in a car with an underinsured driver?

Yes. Your auto liability insurance covers you in any personal vehicle.

afaik liability insurance only covers passengers when you are the driver (hence, "liable") and either typically, or always, not at all if you're a passenger - according to my sister, who works in the insurance industry - and, additionally, all of this varies greatly from state to state in the US.

Re: Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute

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How does Lyft expect to maintain a financial middleman relationship in a carpool relationship? What incentive does a commuter have to keep paying Lyft?

Seems like the advantage here is that you're never beholden to a particular time, or really any prior agreement. You can check for compatible carpools whenever and wherever you want.

Re: Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute

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No insurance is a huge red flag to me

Insurance and regulation arbitrage is basically the name of the game for Uber, Lyft, and Airbnb as far as I can tell.

To me, the game of the "sharing economy" is to use the vastly lowered transaction and communication costs of the internet to make better use of unused capital. Cars and housing in those cases.

That regulation is a decade or two behind the technology is unfortunate, but merely a side story.

Re: Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute

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I can see drivers/passengers travelling together for weeks or months at a time. So you'd probably just want to quit Lyft and enter a private arrangement. Is there anything in Lyft's business model to prevent or mitigate this?

That is a fact of life for all marketplaces. Historically speaking, it has already been proven that the power users who look to form relationships outside of a marketplace are usually edge cases and have little effect on the viability of the business
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