Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

Post by sosuke » Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 11:53 PM UTC

fma wrote: post #171

sosuke wrote: post #150

If I were making a good deal more than my peer what do I gain by being fair and honest. What makes it fair? Why shouldn't I make more or less by the skill of negotiation? I've not yet read a reason for the top paid people to talk about their salary. It seems they would have more to risk than gain and it would hurt them in the next negotiation. Not having spoken about my salary I've got no idea if I make more or less.…

The reasons why executives of public companies make more money than before is because their compensation must be published. So when an executive goes to another job they say "Hey, so and so makes that much money and that's what CEO is worth. Pay me more than that". And hence we are where we are today when executives get paid a lot, given golden parachutes, etc. I would imagine the same would go for any position of sa…

Post by bigtunacan » Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 11:56 PM UTC

sosuke wrote: post #162

bigtunacan wrote: post #158

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Why should someone more qualified make less just because they are a bad negotiator or just unaware of what everyone makes? Employers typically want this information because as a whole it is in their favor, not the employees' favor to keep this information from being disclosed. I have experience working in both the private and public sector. Private sector salaries (USA) are typically not publicly disclosed and compan…

I feel like you're approaching it from the concept that the world should be fair. I'm coming from the other angle. What if you ask for a raise and they said something such as "we can't give you a raise because we can't afford to give everyone a raise." Seems like the knowing of salaries doesn't cure that. "We don't have anymore budget" "We don't have any room for another senior blah"

Post by mattsmith123 » Sun, Mar 20, 2016, 12:34 AM UTC

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #163

jeremyt wrote: post #141

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I disagree. The problem here is that every company has above average performers, average performers, and below average performers. However, almost everyone thinks they are an above average performer. Therefore, if salaries are shared, at least two thirds of your workers are liable to be pissed off at what they are making, even though the amount is completely fair based on their actual worth to the company.

> almost everyone thinks they are an above average performer.[...]Therefore, if salaries are shared, at least two thirds of your workers are liable to be pissed off at what they are making, even though the amount is completely fair based on their actual worth to the company. This is a strawman. Where is your data to back up that "almost everyone thinks they are an above average performer"? At least anecdotally I've n…

Post by negrit » Sun, Mar 20, 2016, 12:48 AM UTC

Gratsby wrote: post #167

negrit wrote: post #152

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Out of curiosity could you define spammy? People call Glassdoor spammy, is it because there is too much advertising or because they force user to register in order to see more data?

The advertising I don't see (adblocker), but when you do provide them information they push for more and more and constantly harass you via email. Also, they force you to register after browsing the site a few times and do the hidden content thing pretending to have more content than they do. ("Register to read the full review", then when you register and go to the review it's like 4 words long). I understand wanting…

Post by aantix » Sun, Mar 20, 2016, 2:27 AM UTC

bigtunacan wrote: post #175

aantix wrote: post #160

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You really don't want to negotiate against the other open salaries. Know your worth; if the product you work on brings millions to the table for the company and you are the lead dev, who gives a rap if your introverted programming partner is making 100k? Know your value. Quantify yourself. Negotiate from the value you bring. Otherwise you're leaving that analysis up to someone else and their offer certainly isn't goi…

Worth is always relative. What metric shall I base it on? If I base it against the salary of all similarly experienced programmers in the world then it is lower than if I narrow it to just the United States. If I narrow it to the United States it may be too high if I live in a smaller rural area with less jobs and am unwilling to move. Then I can narrow it down to my region, but then I may undervalue myself as I coul…