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The Seven Habits of Highly Depolarizing People

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Re: The Seven Habits of Highly Depolarizing People

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I agree, but anecdotally, as someone who spends a lot of face-to-face time around people on both sides of the typical left-right division, neither of which represent my views, it is very frustrating for me, and I suspect rather pointless for them. I've never left a political conversation like this feeling like I made a dent in anyone's ideology; they just leave thinking I'm a weirdo.

I think the same, and I'd go a step further. I don't particularly _want_ to get along with people who have no problem with abortion, nor with people who have no problem with torture. Why should I see being de-polarizing as something desirable? (And where can I move to?)

I don't think there are very many people who actually have "no problem" with torture, and even fewer who have "no qualms" about abortion. It's just a question of whether they should be legal or not (I'm "no exceptions" for torture, but not abortion, FYI).

And the reason why we should be less polarized, politically, is because there are a large number of important issues that can be solved, and need to be solved, even if we can never come to agreement on others. The way politics is being managed in the U.S. is basically an "all or nothing" grab bag on every single issue, with no chance for compromise, and that just leads to hours of pointless rhetoric and gridlock while the problems just get worse.

IMO, one of the parties is a worse offender than the other, but it really only takes one side being intractable to ensure nothing gets done the way the U.S. government is set up.

Re: The Seven Habits of Highly Depolarizing People

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How about "think for yourself"? I notice that when you discuss something with a lot of partisan people they come to a pretty balanced view if the party leadership hasn't already staked out a position. But they will make a 180 turn as soon as soon as the official position is out and be totally opposed to the view they have developed previously.

I suspect that's a big part of group identity. Want to solve that problem? Stop referring to those who disagree (or agree) with you as "Democrat" or "Republican". And stop thinking of yourself that way.

It's partially "group identity" and partially that they didn't care about issue X enough to hold onto that idea. I feel like people identify with parties in the U.S. based on its position on a few issues they really care about, like Global Warming or Abortion, and just go along with them on the other issues that they don't care that much about.
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