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Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by ygra »

SuddsMcDuff wrote: post #148
wvenable wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft has the IDE for you already: Visual Studio Code.

Which is 99% atom.io

Not really. It uses the same shell, but the text editor part is completely different (and from what I've heard, much faster, especially on large files).

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by interdrift »

SuddsMcDuff wrote: post #138
alyx wrote: post #129

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Can you be more specific about what you hate? I've been a .NET dev for over 10 years as well, and for all it's faults, VS is one of the best dev environments I've ever worked in.

It's the incredible bloat of the thing. It's weighed down so much by features that I do not want or need. I don't want SQL Server express & all the associated bloat that comes with that. I don't want IIS express and all the associated bloat that comes with that. I don't want freaking Entity Framework and its associated GUI designers. I don't want bloody "Blend for Visual Studio", I thought that crap was dead. I don't…

Altho I don't share your issues with all the 'bloating' stuff ( as others mentioned most of them can be avoided ) , I have a growing concern for the performance of VS while working with a bigger codebase (120+ projects) . It gets really really slow and full of loading screens which literally block you from doing anything. In fact you can sit there and wait 5+ minutes sometimes just to have the IDE let you do anything. Not to mention the infinite amount of times I've had Visual Studio close while I'm writing and it leaves my code in an unknown state. Oh yeah, not to forget the debugger exception which causes your debugger simply to detach even after you've spent around 5 minutes to get to the precise location of the program. Whoa, turns out I have quite a bit of hatred stored in me too! :D (VS2015)

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by wsc981 »

xiaoma wrote: post #11

Does anyone here do C# work on a Mac outside of Unity? If so, what kind of project is it?

I think at least some devs use Xamarin on Mac. I used it, but Xamarin Studio kinda sucks for me. Debugging tools seem pretty crappy compared to Xcode. Not sure if it's the tool or the language that's the problem.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by bargl »

firephreek wrote: post #165
jbigelow76 wrote: post #162

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>I particularly don't like being forced to sign in to what should be an offline piece of software. With JetBrains moving to a subscription model for their software won't you end up with the same problem?

Only if you purchase a monthly subscription. If you buy a one year license, you get a perpetual license and you don't have to sign in when. The monthly based subscription require logging in every 30 days or so, but you can also key in the licensing offline with out signing in.

The same is true of Visual Studio you can apply a license in VS. I just did it in VS 2015. No sign in required.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by justncase80 »

jsingleton wrote: post #144

I'm unreasonably excited by this news. ReSharper is already an amazing tool and I'm sure JetBrains can do so much more with complete control over the whole IDE than with a plugin. I've not been very impressed with Visual Studio 2015 so far. I particularly don't like being forced to sign in to what should be an offline piece of software. Also, be careful installing it on an existing system as it will mess up your sett…

Have you tried this?

https://code.visualstudio.com/

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by justncase80 »

SuddsMcDuff wrote: post #127

I've been a .NET dev for over 10 years now, finally there's an alternative to the huge, monolithic, incredibly bloated Visual Studio, which I've grown to hate with a passion. There have been contenders over the years, monodevelop, sharpdevelop, most recently the OmniSharp plugin with atom.io. This is the first time I can realistically see myself being free from VisualStudio in a professional context.

Have you tried Code?

https://code.visualstudio.com/

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by plexicle »

SuddsMcDuff wrote: post #148
wvenable wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft has the IDE for you already: Visual Studio Code.

Which is 99% atom.io

What? Not even close. That's a ridiculous statement.

They both use electron, but Microsoft is baaarely using it for some UI pieces. That's really the only similarity between them.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by s73v3r »

justncase80 wrote: post #175
jsingleton wrote: post #144

I'm unreasonably excited by this news. ReSharper is already an amazing tool and I'm sure JetBrains can do so much more with complete control over the whole IDE than with a plugin. I've not been very impressed with Visual Studio 2015 so far. I particularly don't like being forced to sign in to what should be an offline piece of software. Also, be careful installing it on an existing system as it will mess up your sett…

Have you tried this? https://code.visualstudio.com/

That's an editor, not an IDE. It's basically Atom, with some specialized plugins.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by carussell »

s73v3r wrote: post #179
justncase80 wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried this? https://code.visualstudio.com/

That's an editor, not an IDE. It's basically Atom, with some specialized plugins.

It is built on Electron Shell, but vscode is a lot more than a preselected set of plugins for Atom. Most of vscode was written from scratch in TypeScript or assembled from existing (non-Atom) parts. The editors don't really share code.
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